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michael robinson

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Booster Pump Which One
« on: September 27, 2012, 11:49:28 am »
Hi guys just want your feedback on which booster pump mine has packed up and new to buy a new one obviously its got to be 24/7 rated but hate having to fork out, so could you guys point me in the right directions for a new one please. cheers mike


michael robinson

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Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2012, 01:10:23 pm »
cheers mate a bit expensive any other suggestions anyone please.

SPE

Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2012, 01:17:46 pm »
saw one in lidls yesterday for £50

concept

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Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2012, 02:02:58 pm »
cheers mate a bit expensive any other suggestions anyone please.

Like anything get what you pay for.

Ours has been in use every day for 3.5 years, and still going strong.

Fin Clearview

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Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2012, 07:24:47 pm »
As a wfp newbie I'd like to ask why would you buy this booster if you can get a 40' HF5 for a few hundred extra?

colin purewater

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Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2012, 07:45:01 pm »
saw one in lidls yesterday for £50
I bought the lidl one about 9  months ago
I use it as a booster pump and s transfer pump!
Best 50 notes I've spent  8)
keep it simple

SPE

Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2012, 10:15:27 pm »
As a wfp newbie I'd like to ask why would you buy this booster if you can get a 40' HF5 for a few hundred extra?
An hf5 is good at lower water pressures ( I have one ) although it will still benefit from a booster pump. RO systems rely on water pressure to work, so the better the pressure you can get, the more efficiciently the ro will work, produce more pure water quickly at a lower tds.
Simon

Smudger

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Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2012, 10:32:48 pm »
DAB Jet 102 M 230V Water Pump
DAB Self-priming Water Pump


http://www.anglianpumping.com/Booster-Pumps/


runs day in day out - increases mains pressure from just under 30 PSI to around 80 PSI fill my tank through 4040 membrane at around 170 LPH

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Fin Clearview

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Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2012, 10:33:35 pm »
As a wfp newbie I'd like to ask why would you buy this booster if you can get a 40' HF5 for a few hundred extra?
An hf5 is good at lower water pressures ( I have one ) although it will still benefit from a booster pump. RO systems rely on water pressure to work, so the better the pressure you can get, the more efficiciently the ro will work, produce more pure water quickly at a lower tds.
Simon
As I'm looking to change my 300 ro to a HF5 id like to get an idea of production times Simon what is your psi into the ro and how long does it take to fill (whatever size tank you have).

SPE

Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2012, 06:09:46 am »
As a wfp newbie I'd like to ask why would you buy this booster if you can get a 40' HF5 for a few hundred extra?
An hf5 is good at lower water pressures ( I have one ) although it will still benefit from a booster pump. RO systems rely on water pressure to work, so the better the pressure you can get, the more efficiciently the ro will work, produce more pure water quickly at a lower tds.
Simon
As I'm looking to change my 300 ro to a HF5 id like to get an idea of production times Simon what is your psi into the ro and how long does it take to fill (whatever size tank you have).
Mine is pretty fast can fill 600ltr tank in just over 3 hours
only have a gauge before pre filters, its 20 psi when flushing and when making pure its optimum is 50, no pump though so it only gives me a tds of 30-32 ppm.
Ideally I would have a booster pump but I am in a first floor flat with fussy neighbours, and it would be too noisy . I have an 11 ltr di on board the van and lasts maybe 3 months before I change it at 10ppm, \i use approx 1500 - 2000 ltrs per week.
Simon

Fin Clearview

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Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2012, 08:07:53 am »
Ok, my dilemma is this, as funds are abit tight due to layout I don't know whether to buy a cheaper pump I.e pure freedoms for around £100 or this Clarke one and then save for the hf5? What d'ya think?

* I am currently producing 350l per day on the 300 ro but using 600 per day (as topping up with tap water) at work and my psi into the ro is 45. Cheers fin

michael robinson

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Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2012, 08:39:54 am »
Ok guys thanks for your help i had an aquatec pump 24/7 rated and the first time lasted about 1.5yrs bought another the same and that has lasted me for over 3yrs and they have gone up a bit now, but managed to get the same pump aquatec cdp 8800 from ebay yesterday one that this guy had and used it for a project which only lasted 1hr and apparently did the job they wanted and he had stored it in his loft since so in effect is virtually brand new and got it from him delivered for £60 so quite happy not received it yet. but im sure it will be sound. so thanks for your feedback.

concept

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Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2012, 09:12:25 am »
Ok, my dilemma is this, as funds are abit tight due to layout I don't know whether to buy a cheaper pump I.e pure freedoms for around £100 or this Clarke one and then save for the hf5? What d'ya think?

* I am currently producing 350l per day on the 300 ro but using 600 per day (as topping up with tap water) at work and my psi into the ro is 45. Cheers fin

The purefreedom booster pump will not touch the sides of a 4040. If you go down the route of a 4040, you need a decent pump like the Clarke one.

Depends what you want your business to be, if you plan on being busy, and expanding, then buy the best you can afford, as changing set ups regularly is costly and a hassle.

Fin Clearview

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Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2012, 12:08:39 pm »
Ok, my dilemma is this, as funds are abit tight due to layout I don't know whether to buy a cheaper pump I.e pure freedoms for around £100 or this Clarke one and then save for the hf5? What d'ya think?

* I am currently producing 350l per day on the 300 ro but using 600 per day (as topping up with tap water) at work and my psi into the ro is 45. Cheers fin

The purefreedom booster pump will not touch the sides of a 4040. If you go down the route of a 4040, you need a decent pump like the Clarke one.

Depends what you want your business to be, if you plan on being busy, and expanding, then buy the best you can afford, as changing set ups regularly is costly and a hassle.

Would the Clarke work on the 300 until I can afford the hf5?

SPE

Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2012, 05:02:24 pm »
Ok, my dilemma is this, as funds are abit tight due to layout I don't know whether to buy a cheaper pump I.e pure freedoms for around £100 or this Clarke one and then save for the hf5? What d'ya think?

* I am currently producing 350l per day on the 300 ro but using 600 per day (as topping up with tap water) at work and my psi into the ro is 45. Cheers fin
Fin, I'm not understanding why you can only produce 350l per day but have to top up because you use 600 ?
is this because the vans tank is a 350 ? how are you set up ?
45 psi is enough to get good production from an hf5 (its designed with that in mind) you should be able to produce water at 150 lph + unpumped ( I do ).
If it were me (and it was once, I started with a merlin ro, bad choice, terrible waste ratio ) I'd put my money into a 4040 hf5, then see if I needed a pump and buy one later if needed.
Simon

SPE

Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2012, 05:08:12 pm »
oops, just saw this in another thread , helping me to understand the shortfalls of a 300gpd ro without a booster, my opinion still stands though, make a 4040 your priority, you wont regret  ;)

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=post;quote=1317814;topic=158832.0;num_replies=4;sesc=c3f14447ed4b5eb8d7f86cb60be82d76

Fin Clearview

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Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2012, 08:11:26 pm »
Ok, my dilemma is this, as funds are abit tight due to layout I don't know whether to buy a cheaper pump I.e pure freedoms for around £100 or this Clarke one and then save for the hf5? What d'ya think?

* I am currently producing 350l per day on the 300 ro but using 600 per day (as topping up with tap water) at work and my psi into the ro is 45. Cheers fin
Fin, I'm not understanding why you can only produce 350l per day but have to top up because you use 600 ?
is this because the vans tank is a 350 ? how are you set up ?
45 psi is enough to get good production from an hf5 (its designed with that in mind) you should be able to produce water at 150 lph + unpumped ( I do ).
If it were me (and it was once, I started with a merlin ro, bad choice, terrible waste ratio ) I'd put my money into a 4040 hf5, then see if I needed a pump and buy one later if needed.
Simon

Hi Simon, right sorry about the confusion. My water is in a 650 ibc in my garage. In my van I have a 600 tank. My water pressure is making the ro look stupid and churning out the 350l per day. Therefore i need to do the top up, I'm doing my first cleans on my round using the wfp at the moment hence going through so much water, tbh if I use my varistream on a #3 all day i usually finish with around 50l. My current 300 ro is from pure freedom, I know I have to change it to get shot of this topping up with tap water problem, but funds are a prob as I've said at the moment but I'll be fine in a few weeks and ready to go for the hf5, I just thought if I needed a pump anyway and it would work on my current ro then I could poss afford it next week and maybe it would double the ibc amount to maybe 600l per day thereby getting me through a working day. What d'ya think, should I just wait for the hf5 and like you said wait on the pump if needed. Ps do you know if the Clarke pump would work on the 300 ro? Cheers

SPE

Re: Booster Pump Which One
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2012, 08:47:10 am »
Ok, my dilemma is this, as funds are abit tight due to layout I don't know whether to buy a cheaper pump I.e pure freedoms for around £100 or this Clarke one and then save for the hf5? What d'ya think?

* I am currently producing 350l per day on the 300 ro but using 600 per day (as topping up with tap water) at work and my psi into the ro is 45. Cheers fin
Fin, I'm not understanding why you can only produce 350l per day but have to top up because you use 600 ?
is this because the vans tank is a 350 ? how are you set up ?
45 psi is enough to get good production from an hf5 (its designed with that in mind) you should be able to produce water at 150 lph + unpumped ( I do ).
If it were me (and it was once, I started with a merlin ro, bad choice, terrible waste ratio ) I'd put my money into a 4040 hf5, then see if I needed a pump and buy one later if needed.
Simon

Hi Simon, right sorry about the confusion. My water is in a 650 ibc in my garage. In my van I have a 600 tank. My water pressure is making the ro look stupid and churning out the 350l per day. Therefore i need to do the top up, I'm doing my first cleans on my round using the wfp at the moment hence going through so much water, tbh if I use my varistream on a #3 all day i usually finish with around 50l. My current 300 ro is from pure freedom, I know I have to change it to get shot of this topping up with tap water problem, but funds are a prob as I've said at the moment but I'll be fine in a few weeks and ready to go for the hf5, I just thought if I needed a pump anyway and it would work on my current ro then I could poss afford it next week and maybe it would double the ibc amount to maybe 600l per day thereby getting me through a working day. What d'ya think, should I just wait for the hf5 and like you said wait on the pump if needed. Ps do you know if the Clarke pump would work on the 300 ro? Cheers
Ok thanks I understand now
Although I dont use a booster pump I would not see a problem with using any clarke pump recommended on here rated to use with a 4040 on a 300 system seeing as its smaller, others maybe able to advise though.
Incidentally have a look at this

http://www.vyair.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=263

I have one of their pumps as my delivery pump on the van (is very good)
I may look into the pump they have on that system because I was under the impression from others on here that a pump of that style would be too small on a 4040 ? I need to investigate this as I could definately fit that into my system.

The complete kit looks pretty good (having checked recent prices on Gaps water etc.) and know nothing of their brand of low pressure membrane, but the fact it includes a booster pump (if it works) makes it an attractive package , Simon