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Nick M

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scrubber drier vs rotary cleaning machine
« on: April 12, 2012, 05:49:17 pm »
Hi Guys

I'm new to the cleaning business so please excuse me if this question sounds daft!

I am looking at buying my first floor cleaning machine for the routine cleaning of the hard floors of the offices I clean.

The floors are mainly either ceramic tiles, laminate or some kind of rubbery tile? ( I don't know what it is called yet)

I have done a little reserach on the net about machines and was wondering what I should be looking at for daily routine cleaning (not heavily soiled deep cleaning)

Am I right in saying that a scrubber drier would be a better choice over a rotary scrubber because they will do the job quicker? As I understand it after you scrub with a roraty you would have to use a extraction machine to suck up the dirty water?

 Can anyone recommend a decent reasonly priced machine? I was looking at this one...
http://www.janitorialdirect.co.uk/product/?pid=1960

Thank you in advance

Nick

AshWhite

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Re: scrubber drier vs rotary cleaning machine
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 05:58:06 pm »
The multiwash is a great machine, but that particular model is too small for large areas - it's great for domestics where you have to manouver around furniture/beds etc, butfor open spaces it'll be quite slow. I've had Rotowash's (on which the Multiwash is based), and I've had the 20cm, 30cm, and 40cm models - I've sold them all now except the 20cm version as I do very little in the way of commercials and the 20cm is very easy to carry up stairs etc.

You can buy a decent used rotary for £150/£200, so is it possible you could get both?
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Jamie Pearson

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Re: scrubber drier vs rotary cleaning machine
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2012, 09:05:03 pm »
The Multiwash will be perfect for maintenance cleans of the floors you mention.
Way better than only mopping.
If you went down the route of a rotary you would really need a wet vac to compliment it.

We have a recon MW240 available.

Billy Russell

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Re: scrubber drier vs rotary cleaning machine
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2012, 09:54:58 pm »
It depends on the soiling and the level of soiling, i think if its everyday foot traffic, the mw/rw will be fine, but if its like some of the engineering factories we do, when all the factory staff walk through the offices day in day out, i just don't think they'll cut it, well i dont think, i know! i have owned mw and i have a rw, which now gets used for scrubbing in pre spray on carpets, for which it is very good for!!!!

Jamie Pearson

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Re: scrubber drier vs rotary cleaning machine
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 07:34:06 am »
Have you experimented with different brush types?

When I was contracts manager I used to argue all the time with our sales guys about multiwash performance. Mainly because we were doing restorations. Eventually we changed from the standard brushes and now we use it on nearly every tile job we do for grout line agitation. The tank still is a little small for restorations but we put one into a spa we maintain FOC for the attendants to use in place of mopping on a daily a basis and the difference in conditions there when we do our 4 weekly visits has improved dramatically.

Kev Martin

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Re: scrubber drier vs rotary cleaning machine
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2012, 07:48:22 am »
There are situations when both come into their own.  A scrubber drier is obviously better when you only have one member of staff doing the work so it is easier if they operate a single machine that both scrubs and vacs at the same time.  One of the biggest problems today however is that everyone wants to get the job done at speed and subsequently efficiency disappears out of the window.  All chemicals/cleaners require a dwell time and the dwell time can never be long enough where a scrubber drier is involved because the vacuum process takes place too quickly after the lay down and scrub.  A lot of this of course is down to the scrubber drier if you are using a ride on, you can lay down on your first pass then scrub and vacuum on your second pass.  Ultimately it is horses for courses and everything depends on the area to be cleaned and available access.  Often though any form of scrubber drier or rotary scrubber and vacuum is in 99% of cases much better than a mop and bucket.

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
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Billy Russell

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Re: scrubber drier vs rotary cleaning machine
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 02:42:47 pm »
There are situations when both come into their own.  A scrubber drier is obviously better when you only have one member of staff doing the work so it is easier if they operate a single machine that both scrubs and vacs at the same time.  One of the biggest problems today however is that everyone wants to get the job done at speed and subsequently efficiency disappears out of the window.  All chemicals/cleaners require a dwell time and the dwell time can never be long enough where a scrubber drier is involved because the vacuum process takes place too quickly after the lay down and scrub.  A lot of this of course is down to the scrubber drier if you are using a ride on, you can lay down on your first pass then scrub and vacuum on your second pass.  Ultimately it is horses for courses and everything depends on the area to be cleaned and available access.  Often though any form of scrubber drier or rotary scrubber and vacuum is in 99% of cases much better than a mop and bucket.

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd

I disagree Kev, i would say its better 99.9% of the time!!  ;)

Jamie,

To be fair, i haven't experimented with different brushes!!

Kev Martin

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Re: scrubber drier vs rotary cleaning machine
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2012, 07:19:13 pm »
There are situations when both come into their own.  A scrubber drier is obviously better when you only have one member of staff doing the work so it is easier if they operate a single machine that both scrubs and vacs at the same time.  One of the biggest problems today however is that everyone wants to get the job done at speed and subsequently efficiency disappears out of the window.  All chemicals/cleaners require a dwell time and the dwell time can never be long enough where a scrubber drier is involved because the vacuum process takes place too quickly after the lay down and scrub.  A lot of this of course is down to the scrubber drier if you are using a ride on, you can lay down on your first pass then scrub and vacuum on your second pass.  Ultimately it is horses for courses and everything depends on the area to be cleaned and available access.  Often though any form of scrubber drier or rotary scrubber and vacuum is in 99% of cases much better than a mop and bucket.

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd

I disagree Kev, i would say its better 99.9% of the time!!  ;)

Jamie,

To be fair, i haven't experimented with different brushes!!

Billy

You pedantic git  Haven't you got a weirdo weekend to go and organise somewhere ;) ;)

Kev
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Billy Russell

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Re: scrubber drier vs rotary cleaning machine
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2012, 08:30:33 pm »
There are situations when both come into their own.  A scrubber drier is obviously better when you only have one member of staff doing the work so it is easier if they operate a single machine that both scrubs and vacs at the same time.  One of the biggest problems today however is that everyone wants to get the job done at speed and subsequently efficiency disappears out of the window.  All chemicals/cleaners require a dwell time and the dwell time can never be long enough where a scrubber drier is involved because the vacuum process takes place too quickly after the lay down and scrub.  A lot of this of course is down to the scrubber drier if you are using a ride on, you can lay down on your first pass then scrub and vacuum on your second pass.  Ultimately it is horses for courses and everything depends on the area to be cleaned and available access.  Often though any form of scrubber drier or rotary scrubber and vacuum is in 99% of cases much better than a mop and bucket.

Kev Martin
Marble Life Ltd

I disagree Kev, i would say its better 99.9% of the time!!  ;)

Jamie,

To be fair, i haven't experimented with different brushes!!

Billy

You pedantic git  Haven't you got a weirdo weekend to go and organise somewhere ;) ;)

Kev

Don't you start picking on me again Mr Kevin 'del boy' Martin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 ;D ;D  ;)