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JM123

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Canvassing
« on: December 08, 2005, 04:45:51 pm »
Just wanted to know if anyone can recommend a good way to canvass and build up work - I've got a decent run but want to take on more - I've tried calling at the door but never seem to get a lot of work, any ideas??
Live life in the fast lane.......if you break down you'll freewheel further

Ballymena N.I

Re: Canvassing
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2005, 06:03:05 pm »
Change area, keep knocking.  Sign written van,  Work on Saturdays so people notice you. Park in a busy local Supermarket in your area, in a prime spot. All day on a Sunday, so people notice your sign written  van.  leafet dropping.
Just some ideas

rosskesava

Re: Canvassing
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2005, 08:47:00 pm »
Hi JM123

I've found that canvasing pays off over time.

In quite a few area's we've ended up with loads of houses in the same street but usually - it started off with one. What I've always done in the past when we got a job in a good area is to leaflet the houses near by every time we done that one house.

There's one road where we do 27 out of a total of 46 houses. From getting the first job to ending up with 27 took 2 years and I leafleted the street every month we were there for about 18 months.

It's a 'keep on doing it' thing.

Knocking on doors does work but it's a lot of leg work for what can seem little return and leaflets does also work if you keep at it.

Our tried and tested method when we turned up for a job (we are not taking on new work anymore) was to make a lot of noise with the ladders (even if it's a wfp job) and oddly enough and I don't know why, that seems to get us new work on a regular basis.

Cheers

Re: Canvassing
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2005, 08:22:46 am »
Our tried and tested method when we turned up for a job (we are not taking on new work anymore) was to make a lot of noise with the ladders (even if it's a wfp job) and oddly enough and I don't know why, that seems to get us new work on a regular basis.

Cheers

Make a lot of noise. Play the song "when I am cleaning windows"  on full blast, when you are working in the street. That should work ;D

TopGlass

  • Posts: 36
Re: Canvassing
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2005, 11:13:39 am »
Get some decent flyers done!

I've just had a load printed, but I spent ages designing making sure they were right. On my way home on wednesday I put out about 60, yesterday I got 7 new customers just from those few, and they all remarked at how professional my flyers looked. So keep door knocking but also put out flyers and make sure they look good but are easy to read, you'll soon have loads!

Daz
Darren Cordial

Londoner

Re: Canvassing
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2005, 08:07:56 pm »
This is not the best time of year. Windows are pretty low on most householders list of priorities right now.
After Christmas they will all be skint, wait till the days start getting noticably longer and you will get much better results.

craig jwc

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Re: Canvassing
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2005, 09:22:25 pm »
Haven't canvassed for about 5 months now and getting alot of work from recomendation.
Got and ad going in Yellow Pages next year and having an ad with this new 118 Trader booklet that is coming out.
Both have cost around £550 so i am hoping it will pay off.

Craig

Ben Walker

Re: Canvassing
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2005, 09:59:02 pm »
my view is canvassing might seem better than leafleting but its not really. canvassing you get more instant rewards, but people will reply to leaflets just maybe not straight away. you get replies from leaflets months after dropping them. thats my experiece anyway. And someone else can drop them too.
Unless a house gets two flyers from different w/cs, if they really want a w/c, chances are you haven't lost out by not knocking their door.



Londoner

Re: Canvassing
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2005, 09:49:05 am »
Months? I'm still getting calls back from a load of gardening leaflets I put out four years ago!

You can deliver a hundred leaflets in an hour easily. Although the response rate might be low as a % of the total leaflets you put out you will still get results and any result is enough to get you started.

Once you get a couple of houses in a road then is the time to start consolidating by going door to door.

I still believe that a van with WINDOW CLEANER on it  parked regularly in the road does more than you realise.

Walter Pole

  • Posts: 199
Re: Canvassing
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2005, 01:03:06 pm »
All good points, must really agree with Vince and A+ about signage on your vehicle.  I spent £10 on a pair of magnetic signs from an eBay seller and, whilst it is passive, they have paid for themselves 10 fold in a matter of months. 

Mark
taking panes to exceed expectations

holland1945

  • Posts: 58
Re: Canvassing
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2005, 01:43:45 pm »
Hi Everyone. this is my 1st post on any forum of any description, so apologies if it all comes out as gobbledygook, I really am a child of the last century.

Anyway, I'm starting up from scratch, so canvassing is regularly playing a big part of my days. My advice would be this;

Always knock the door on a 1st call, if someone answers explain that, you're building up / expanding your current business and wanted to see if the householder wanted their windows cleaning once a month. It's good to say 'expanding' as this creates the impression of a well-established business.  It's good to say 'once per month' as this is what most people want - regularity.

I sometimes say, 'A few people in the street have asked me to do their windows and I wanted to see if you'd like yours doing as well' ... this ALWAYS works -  I think it may have an element of keeping up with the neighbours.

If no one is in at the house, I drop a leaflet and a business card through the door. I used to work in Direct Marketing and the increased uptake from dropping two leaflets more than covers the cost. You should get between 1-1.5% from a good leaflet and business card.

Then at the weekend I spend most of Saturday afternoon and evening calling back on the leaflets I've dropped. This consistently pulls in the same amount as the 1st round of calls and leaflet responders.

On a Saturday I also take my wife canvassing as (a) she's good company, and (b) more people prefer to buy from women than men, as women are seen as more trustworthy!

Finally, even if you only get a couple of houses in a street, do them, take real time and care over them and I guarantee that you'll get at least one more person approach you. If not, collect the money from them in the evening and knock on the neighbours door either side ... this never fails to pull in a few more customers.

And one last thing, don't give up. My old Sales Manager used to have an arsenal of David Brent style cliches, but one that always rang true was 'The difference between a big hitter and a little hitter, is that a big hitter just keeps swinging!'

mick hay

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Re: Canvassing
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2005, 03:19:01 pm »
i started w/c last june. due to commitments i have to rely on leaflets...latest results are    8,000 leaflets...cost  £272.00 to print and deliver (using a company to deliver)   work gained from those leaflets so far is just under £1000 4 weekly business plus about £400 first and 1 off cleans cleans!!....ive got another 20,000 waiting to go out! i have a minimum charge of £10 and will not budge on any price!! i thought it would have slowed down coming up to xmas, how wrong was i......3 calls this morning...went and quoted. in all ended up with an extra £118 worth of work including a conservatory roof and a 1 off  clean!!  i always looked at leaflets as a second option to door knocking....how wrong was I!!!    :)

thewindowcleaner1

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Re: Canvassing
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2005, 09:58:10 pm »
Got this customer from leaflet that was passed on
Have had replys from leaflets several years after being dropped. recieving a lot of calls recently from van sighnage.
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