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Poll

Should i change to WFP or stick to my mop and blade?

Stick with the good old way!
17.9%
7 (17.9%)
Go to WFP!
76.9%
30 (76.9%)
Not sure!
5.1%
2 (5.1%)

Total Members Voted: 35

Voting closed: October 30, 2005, 03:05:34 pm

Sarah Sarill

  • Posts: 1537
Re: WFP or NOT!!
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2005, 10:01:59 am »
The commercial potential for these systems is something we haven't really got into on this forum yet.

I agree Vince,

We went wfp on commercial in its infancy - almost 5 years ago now.  Just an Omnotrolley, pole and bought in water.

We dont have many really big commercial jobs but the ones we do have are a doddle to do and real earners.

We do an office block - 20 mins work for £58, a hotel - 1 1/2 hrs work £175, a nursing home - 40 mins work - £75 to mention a few.

They are all good hourly rates and the plus is tere is no travel time - all in one place.

Good work if you can get it at the right price for your area.

Sarah

 
Sarah

Ian_Giles

  • Posts: 2988
Re: WFP or NOT!!
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2005, 10:45:52 am »
I couldn't agree more Sarah,
But it isn't just on commercial stuff, once you start cleaning houses that you would normally charge around £25 and upwards when done trad (hell, once you get over the £10 mark come to that) you really start to see the difference.
Providing you price up work as if you are using traditional methods you will make far more money.
If you don't price up the work in this way, and reduce the price because you are quicker, then you are a muppet, sorry, but you are.
By and large (DIY notwithstanding) WFP is still pretty expensive to get into, and has far higher running costs, and if it doesn't make you more money (on top of your increased costs and initial outlay) you may as well not bother!!

The problem is that some will price more and more competitvely, forcing down the prices of window cleaning to where they were 20 years ago.

But at present, on some of my larger accounts I have to keep pinching myself, I just can't believe I'm earning this sort of money window cleaning, absolutely impossible with trad methods.

I did one new account the other week, 3 storey house, all large old georgian windows, at least 40-50 minutes done trad, and hard work to boot.
I did this place years ago and used to charge £15.00, but dropped it because it was just too much like hard work.
Charged £25.00 for it this time, because I'd want that for it if I had to do it trad.

After 15 minutes (bear in mind this was also the first clean it too) I had just 2 windows left....
I felt so guilty about knocking on the door to collect the money I went and sat in the car and rang Roger of Squeaky_Clean fame for 10 minutes!! Just to use up a bit of time (was also last account of the day)
Customer was well pleased with the job though, and didn't bat an eye that she was paying out the equivalent of a £100 per hour to have her windows cleaned
 ;D
But he price was still very competative compared to if she had got someone who would have been working in the trad mode...

Regards,


Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

G & M

  • Posts: 513
Re: WFP or NOT!!
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2005, 11:08:53 am »
We are new to w/c and are thinking of buying a 50ltr wf system from omni     pole all suggestions/advice welcome,
 
anyone using omnipole's gutter cleaning vac?

also any sample flyers would be greatly appreciated
 
please email us at hickeys45@yahoo.ie
 
p.s. we are in the rep of ireland and would welcome any advice on sourcing equipment

Kinver_Clean

  • Posts: 1120
Re: WFP or NOT!!
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2005, 06:15:44 pm »
God must love stupid people---He made so many.

Londoner

Re: WFP or NOT!!
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2005, 07:26:20 am »
Ian and Sarah

I am totally won over both by what I saw the other day and what you have said endorses it.

I couldn't stop thinking about it yesterday, it was all just going round and round in my head. So much so that I went back yesterday afternoon to look at the windows on the block of flats where I saw the two guys working. They were gleaming.

I can see what Ian says about reducing the price will eventually happen. There is always someone who thinks he's smarter than the rest and tries towin an advantage by working for less.

up to now I had only really been considering a WFP for domestic to get away from ladders but now I know I won't be happy till I get one.

Thanks

Chris Cottrell

  • Posts: 3162
Re: WFP or NOT!!
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2005, 10:07:32 am »
I'm going over to WFP in December , Have made my mind up from what I've read on this forum ,The R/O sys has been ordered also the poles

I'm going to do it with a trolley , Something like Matt's
He has been my inspiration ( I know not originally his idea the diy thing but thanks to Matt )

So the Q. of WFP or NOT for me is a resounding WFP.

neil100

  • Posts: 1137
Re: WFP or NOT!!
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2005, 04:38:31 pm »
Chris

Is your r/o van mount or static?

How much did it cost and what type is it?

Nel



S.C.S

Re: WFP or NOT!!
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2005, 08:52:47 pm »
Thanks for the votes all looks like im goin to WFP myself now.

Cheers
 ;D

Chris Cottrell

  • Posts: 3162
Re: WFP or NOT!!
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2005, 09:31:57 pm »
I havn't got it yet its in the delivery van as we type waiting for tomorrow morning .... I hope, but

I bought the 6 stage 100 gpd from Ro-Man costing £145.41
http://www.ro-man.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=122

Its going in the garage so obviously a static, I'm hopeing 350+ litres a day will be enough for me