[APWS]

got an email today from adseal advertising their new wet weather sealer (adseal extreme)
apparantly you can seal whilst the ground is still wet! could have done with that last friday & today damm rain,
might try and get a sample from them to test, interested to see the results 
jim.

[Matt Gibson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr16NBmhrBI

Looks pretty good.. I could use that stuff by the tanker load up here 

[Kenny83]

I had a chat with them today about this, it's a water based polyurethane, so as it's water based won't break existing sealer down if your doing a reseal, hence... delaminated, white patchy sealer won't just disapear when it's sealed over... so not sure if it's more for the installer... but if the installers start using it then where does that leave guys like us with acrylics? can we seal over it with an acrylic? if not then i suppose a test will need to be carried out before every reseal.. just a few questions worth asking

[APWS]

I had a chat with them today about this, it's a water based polyurethane, so as it's water based won't break existing sealer down if your doing a reseal, hence... delaminated, white patchy sealer won't just disapear when it's sealed over... so not sure if it's more for the installer... but if the installers start using it then where does that leave guys like us with acrylics? can we seal over it with an acrylic? if not then i suppose a test will need to be carried out before every reseal.. just a few questions worth asking

good question, i would have thought thier tech people would have thought of that when coming up with the product,

[mike roberts]

I had a chat with them today about this, it's a water based polyurethane, so as it's water based won't break existing sealer down if your doing a reseal, hence... delaminated, white patchy sealer won't just disapear when it's sealed over... so not sure if it's more for the installer... but if the installers start using it then where does that leave guys like us with acrylics? can we seal over it with an acrylic? if not then i suppose a test will need to be carried out before every reseal.. just a few questions worth asking

sorry I am lost .... you had a chat with them what did they say about reseals ??
with another poly,  what do they recommend  (presume you need to etch it) and with acrylics assume its a no go..

[Kenny83]

i had a quick chat with them about it, got the price etc, but didn't have time to go into depth about it, all I know is it's a water based PU and it dosen't break down solvent based sealers so won't be any good for resealing delaminated acrylic. I think that installers may go for it, as it says in the vid, you can seal straight away, get paid straight away, good for the installer. I'll be in there this week at some point so will keep you posted about resealing it

[mike roberts]

thks mike

[Kenny83]

Spoke with the guys at adsel today and the comments are as follows-
Q - Can it be put over existing acrylic?
A- Yes, it seems to be ok, no problems so far, although as it's not solvent based it will not break down white delaminated sealer

Q - Can an acrylic be applied over it?
A - Not sure, thats on one of my things to do in further trials

hope this helps guys, in my opinion it's great for the conractor as an installer but as a refurbisher I wouldn't get too excited yet as it needs to be tried and tested.
Also it's great for the installer in winter, so would probably work for the refurbisher on block paving in winter if they had never been sealed before, so could generate income for us, all we need to do now is find away of getting sand into wet joints!!!   

PS. it's £89 plus VAT

Hope this helps 

[Matt Gibson]

Would be great for me up in scotland. Would save the hassle of having to go back and risk a cloudy day. if its dry enough to sand, but with a chance of rain i could get the sand in quick then not be bothered about it raining on the sealant..

 

[mike roberts]

Spoke with the guys at adsel today and the comments are as follows-
Q - Can it be put over existing acrylic?
A- Yes, it seems to be ok, no problems so far, although as it's not solvent based it will not break down white delaminated sealer

Q - Can an acrylic be applied over it?
A - Not sure, thats on one of my things to do in further trials

hope this helps guys, in my opinion it's great for the conractor as an installer but as a refurbisher I wouldn't get too excited yet as it needs to be tried and tested.
Also it's great for the installer in winter, so would probably work for the refurbisher on block paving in winter if they had never been sealed before, so could generate income for us, all we need to do now is find away of getting sand into wet joints!!!   

PS. it's £89 plus VAT

Hope this helps 

Kenny its all interesting - How many times have we heard of a magic seal!
To be honest I would not touch it u havent got answers to real basic questions

Drives me nuts if they have put this on the 'open' market these tests should of been done mths or years ago !
I know a supplier that tested tarmac coating for 2 yrs prior to selling on open market.
Q - Can it be put over existing acrylic?
A- Yes, it seems to be ok, no problems so far - How long have they tested it for ?
has it been through a british winter ?
Q - Can an acrylic be applied over it?
A - Not sure, thats on one of my things to do in further trials - ok

as a refurb company these questions are the basics surely they must have answers for these... As you have said it needs to be properly tested... otherwise I can see six mths time after harsh winter custys coming back and biting your arses after their drives have f**ked up.

[Kenny83]

Spoke with the guys at adsel today and the comments are as follows-
Q - Can it be put over existing acrylic?
A- Yes, it seems to be ok, no problems so far, although as it's not solvent based it will not break down white delaminated sealer

Q - Can an acrylic be applied over it?
A - Not sure, thats on one of my things to do in further trials

hope this helps guys, in my opinion it's great for the conractor as an installer but as a refurbisher I wouldn't get too excited yet as it needs to be tried and tested.
Also it's great for the installer in winter, so would probably work for the refurbisher on block paving in winter if they had never been sealed before, so could generate income for us, all we need to do now is find away of getting sand into wet joints!!!   

PS. it's £89 plus VAT

Hope this helps 

Kenny its all interesting - How many times have we heard of a magic seal!
To be honest I would not touch it u havent got answers to real basic questions

Drives me nuts if they have put this on the 'open' market these tests should of been done mths or years ago !
I know a supplier that tested tarmac coating for 2 yrs prior to selling on open market.
Q - Can it be put over existing acrylic?
A- Yes, it seems to be ok, no problems so far - How long have they tested it for ?
has it been through a british winter ?
Q - Can an acrylic be applied over it?
A - Not sure, thats on one of my things to do in further trials - ok

as a refurb company these questions are the basics surely they must have answers for these... As you have said it needs to be properly tested... otherwise I can see six mths time after harsh winter custys coming back and biting your arses after their drives have f**ked up.

The answers speak for themselves, i won't be touhing it untill I get cast iron answers, I was a bit miffed myself when I was getting answers like 'it seems to be' and 'not tst that yet', therefore I'm sticking to what i know for now, sealing stops for me this month until next year

[mike roberts]

fair play