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H2O TECH

  • Posts: 141
organizing your round when starting up?
« on: June 29, 2011, 10:59:45 am »
Hi
Ive just started out and wondering if any tips out thier for organzing a round, as you dont want to be driving around here thier and everywhere wasting fuel, I have canvassed certain area's and booked them all in so im in the same area, which is working so far.,

whats a simple way of building up from stratch? do you do one area, then the following day do another area within the same 2 miles radious, then as you expand do outside areas.

How did you do it when you started off? did you canvass every day and the ones you got do the following week.

cheers


Ian Lancaster

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Re: organizing your round when starting up?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2011, 11:43:27 am »
When you start you need every job you can get.  Worry about organisation when you've been going a few months and things need tidying up.

Best way is to take a holiday, letting all your custies know you are going to be a few weeks late next time, then when you come back you can re-organise without the risk of doing some jobs too soon.

H2O TECH

  • Posts: 141
Re: organizing your round when starting up?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2011, 11:56:11 am »
oh cheers, yeah i think i am worrying to much to get it perfect when your right i should just get the jobs under my belt then tidy it up.

got one area im hammering at moment, so most are within a 2-3 mile radious but got one to price up from a reccomendation today which is alot further out.
its nice getting the work I priced up a house the other day for 12 quid and cos i did it wfp it only took me 15 mins so was happy with that.

Ian101

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Re: organizing your round when starting up?
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2011, 12:02:56 pm »
When starting out I would do the work for half a day then canvass and leaflet the area. Do any canvassed work there and then as 1 in bush etc etc

Paul Coleman

Re: organizing your round when starting up?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2011, 01:15:36 pm »
Hi
Ive just started out and wondering if any tips out thier for organzing a round, as you dont want to be driving around here thier and everywhere wasting fuel, I have canvassed certain area's and booked them all in so im in the same area, which is working so far.,

whats a simple way of building up from stratch? do you do one area, then the following day do another area within the same 2 miles radious, then as you expand do outside areas.

How did you do it when you started off? did you canvass every day and the ones you got do the following week.

cheers



It probably is easier to organise at first anyway due to the gaps.

Until about three years ago (I've been going 20 years), I would do all the work in one area then do all the work in the following area.  Each area can take one day to a few days.  I work it so that the next area I will be working in isn't far from the current area.  This means that if I finish in an area half way through a day, I don't usually have to travel too many miles to start in the next one.  However, in recent years I've had to alter things a bit.  I've been getting larger (by my standards) commercial jobs where the cleaning intervals may be different to my domestic round.  Therefore I've had to do more mileage to service this.  Also, I have a couple of areas where the domestics are done quite rigidly on a 6 weekly rota - even if it means breaking off elsewhere.  I don't normally supply this sort of service so I make sure that it's worth it for me.
However, if you are mostly domestic, for now try to make sure that all the work is on the same frequency interval.  Failing that, ensure that the less frequent customers will be visited every second time in the area - so that you don't need to visit an area again just for a couple of houses halfway between your normal visits.  You may want to charge a lot more for less frequent customers in order to discourage the practice.
I think it's important to acknowledge that you can't always give a customer what they want AND run a business in the most economical manner.  Something usually has to give.  It may mean that as you need the work, you may be prepared to be pulled out of the sequence that you would prefer (for now anyway).  It may mean losing a customer as you can't viably supply what they want.  Or it may mean that a customer needs to settle for a service that isn't totally what they like but they'll take it anyway.
It's more important to get this about right these days due to the soaring costs of running a vehicle.

Pope vader

  • Posts: 1944
Re: organizing your round when starting up?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2011, 02:27:21 pm »
http://windowcleaningcoach.com/KeepingtrackofRound.html

go down to my way,  this is what i did very easy

H2O TECH

  • Posts: 141
Re: organizing your round when starting up?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2011, 03:00:10 pm »
Cheers forsome really great points made.





Hi
Ive just started out and wondering if any tips out thier for organzing a round, as you dont want to be driving around here thier and everywhere wasting fuel, I have canvassed certain area's and booked them all in so im in the same area, which is working so far.,

whats a simple way of building up from stratch? do you do one area, then the following day do another area within the same 2 miles radious, then as you expand do outside areas.

How did you do it when you started off? did you canvass every day and the ones you got do the following week.

cheers



It probably is easier to organise at first anyway due to the gaps.

Until about three years ago (I've been going 20 years), I would do all the work in one area then do all the work in the following area.  Each area can take one day to a few days.  I work it so that the next area I will be working in isn't far from the current area.  This means that if I finish in an area half way through a day, I don't usually have to travel too many miles to start in the next one.  However, in recent years I've had to alter things a bit.  I've been getting larger (by my standards) commercial jobs where the cleaning intervals may be different to my domestic round.  Therefore I've had to do more mileage to service this.  Also, I have a couple of areas where the domestics are done quite rigidly on a 6 weekly rota - even if it means breaking off elsewhere.  I don't normally supply this sort of service so I make sure that it's worth it for me.
However, if you are mostly domestic, for now try to make sure that all the work is on the same frequency interval.  Failing that, ensure that the less frequent customers will be visited every second time in the area - so that you don't need to visit an area again just for a couple of houses halfway between your normal visits.  You may want to charge a lot more for less frequent customers in order to discourage the practice.
I think it's important to acknowledge that you can't always give a customer what they want AND run a business in the most economical manner.  Something usually has to give.  It may mean that as you need the work, you may be prepared to be pulled out of the sequence that you would prefer (for now anyway).  It may mean losing a customer as you can't viably supply what they want.  Or it may mean that a customer needs to settle for a service that isn't totally what they like but they'll take it anyway.
It's more important to get this about right these days due to the soaring costs of running a vehicle.

Paul Coleman

Re: organizing your round when starting up?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2011, 07:26:18 pm »
http://windowcleaningcoach.com/KeepingtrackofRound.html

go down to my way,  this is what i did very easy

From the link that you posted
"Remember Who Owes You Dough

You'll need to write down who owes you money. When you clean windows you may find there is nobody there to pay you because they're out at work, shopping, etc. Next to their name in my window cleaning book I put a c with a circle round it to show that that particular customer owes me a payment."

I paste that in without comment - though I may still be influenced by a recent "©" ripping me off.

SB Cleaning

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Re: organizing your round when starting up?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2011, 08:22:54 pm »
Get George (Its a round organizer) 3 month free trial ;)

Dave.

  • Posts: 557
Re: organizing your round when starting up?
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2011, 08:37:19 pm »
I took a map of the area where I live, and split the areas into 5 sub-areas, which slightly overlap.
On Mondays I aim to work area 1, Tuesday area 2 etc.......
When I'm canvassing I go to the areas I'm due to work in the following day - so anything I pick up can be done the next day.

Hope that makes sense?

Oh, and get the free trial  of George, by the time the free trial is up - you'll not want to be without it

Good luck, Dave