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Stu.Clem

  • Posts: 209
Commercial kitchen pricing PROBLEM
« on: August 18, 2010, 12:48:27 pm »
Hi

Would appreciate it if anyone with relevant experience could take a little time to help with current dilemma.

I have a customer who does not want to pay full amount of invoice!  she has used me several times before and now decides to barter!! I am looking for reassurance that my pricing is fair. Her invoice is for £450 which I think is very very fair for the amount of work she received - she actually emailed and stated she doesnt beleive our line of work to be worth £20 per hour!!!!!!!!  (I usually do carpets which yeild far more hourly rate) The work took 2 of us from 1pm to 10pm on a weekday and supplied all chems etc.

Could anyone please suggest a sensible figure for deep cleaning the following:

Upmarket commercial caterers based in a small double industrial unit less than 10 miles away.

Pull out 17 large appliances and clean white plastic walls behind up to ceiling (7ft)  and painted flooring underneath freezers fridges chillers workstations and cooking hobs etc

3 x commercial table top 3 - 4 shelf glass doored ovens approx 3ft x 2ft size med to heavy soiling.

2 x 6 hob gas cooker tops, in parts very badly burned on carbon.

1 x triple filtered stainless extraction hood and large stainless splash back

legs and shelves of 6 workstations

mop floor on exit

She texted and thanked us for result suggesting she happy with work then  she got invoice...  I have replied stating I am not happy and want paying invoice stands - she offering £350 said I dont do bartering and am now seeking legal advice - no quote was given or requested just a list of work to be done.

Thanks in advance

Stu

richywilts

  • Posts: 4261
Re: Commercial kitchen pricing advice
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 05:38:20 pm »
i think you have underpriced the job at 350 to be honest they should be thankful
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

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martin19842

  • Posts: 1945
Re: Commercial kitchen pricing advice
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 08:57:25 pm »
hi there

did you not quote the work before doing the job ??

regards

martin


Stu.Clem

  • Posts: 209
Re: Commercial kitchen pricing advice
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 09:07:58 pm »
My price is £450 her "offer" is £350 - no quote was requested as she knows historically that I am fair with pricing we just agreed a list of jobs.

Going to send recorded delivery another invoice then give her a payment reminder then go down the Thomas Higgins route would just really appreciate someone in similar feild of cleaning giving me their price for same amount of work - pretty sure she would have been charged at least 50% more elsewhere.

Cheers

Stu

Phild

  • Posts: 203
Re: Commercial kitchen pricing PROBLEM
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2010, 11:09:54 pm »
Hi Stu, your in my 'neck of the woods' so you might know us. Your price is actually at the low end. The trouble perhaps though is that you are dealing with the customer as if they were one of your domestic or regular commercial carpet cleaning clients where they know and love what you do and are happy to pay.

The chances are this client has used you for carpet cleaning and been impressed? Then thought .... I will use AA to sort out a problem in my kitchen. You have then made the fatal mistake of not being as professional as you are with your carpet cleaning. This is a commercial client operating in a competitive market. She simply doesn't believe your graft is worth what you have done as she is looking at 'time worked' as if you were a kitchen porter on NMW - a gopher!

This is YOUR fault. The job should have been quoted specifying exactly what you would (and wouldn't do.. floor painting?) and then the price and the payment terms spelled out in black and white. Rentokil-Initial would have charged something like a grand for the same job!

Keep pushing for your cash but start reconciling it in your mind to swallow your pride, write it off to experience then if she appears to be entrenching herself in her position offer to meet halfway between what you want and what she is willing to pay by a date you define.

It sticks in the craw but you will learn from it and believe me the amount you will 'lose' is more than the time you will waste going to a small claims court (which you might lose 'cos everything is verbal) and you might even retain her business in the future, if you want it. But remember to put it in writing the next time.

If your working on Tyneside sometime, give me a shout and visit us. I really liked your website and stuff. If your problem turns worse and you need more advice I'm happy to help, just e-mail me. Best of luck and don't forget sometimes it's better to lose the battle to win the war.

Phil D
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Stu.Clem

  • Posts: 209
Re: Commercial kitchen pricing PROBLEM
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2010, 08:05:46 am »
Cheers Phil much appreciated - I have done the similar clean before only in 2 parts 1st time charging £260 next time with a bit less work £200 - knew they were too cheap then!! lol  not.  This clean was all work done together minus 2 domestic ovens but plus one commercial oven with a couple of other bits added on.  I agree that it is my fault that price wasnt fixed first - she actually blames herself for not setting a price also however she knows my prices are fair and is just trying it on she is a bit of a snobby type who is obviously used to getting her own way.  Concisely told her I am not happy and want paying for my work - just never had anyone barter my Inv when its such a bargain in the first place....

I wont be working for her again  - my carpets can earn that in a day one man.

Thanks again for your angle and offer.

Stu