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Moderator David@stives

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Daves first wfp efforts
« on: September 02, 2005, 10:31:36 pm »
 well where to begin .boy o boy .what a day.

job 1 same time

my first effort was on a house with 3 dormer windows which are dangerous anyway .the customer was fine ,and said she would phone to let me know what they are like .ok so far.

job 2 lot slower

second job not so good .the side which gets most of the wind was full of salt spray and it was bright sunlight on that side .i was rinsing for ages and they were still running milky. the trouble was i think my brush not being able to jet the 4 in on each side of the glass ,the windows were sheeting on the middle third only and i could not get the water to hit the sides as capilary action was pulling the water to the middle .so i was brushing dry glass with the bristles .end result the windows were appalling .so i had to get my ladder and blade them .the rest of the house was ok apart from spots 2ins on the sides of the glass. the customer is a long term one who will defo not jump ship so ok there.

then alas ran out of water.so back on the ladder,till lunch then refill.

job 3  loads faster

were sash and sash georgion . they sheeted beautifully and seemed spotless but i was not looking to closely as it was an office building on the edge of the estuary so they are always smothered in salt spray that job was a lot quicker than ladders.

now the fun begins i managed to get the rest of my jobs done on the ladder so i decided to do a small school at 5.00 pm then no water was coming out of my brush . (dont laugh now)managed to trace it to a cheap hose connector which kept stopping the water flowing so a little push and  i was back in business ,so back to business ,then again no water b*******d had done it again but the pressure build up blew another connecter of the pump and soaked my car so i tightened them up . so after running 100 yards back to my car at least 10 times to fix my connecters .(really cursing ) which kept popping or blocking i finally managed to do the school in less than an hour which normally takes 1h 20 m .not bad seens i ran out of water 2/3 of the way round.the results were not bad ,i noticed the odd run and spots when i had finished ,but what the heck i was not going to do them again after all it is only a school and me being a cowboy an all.

any way got another school in the morning just got to figure out how to get more water there. but it is local so i could  always go back home.

well what a waffle .getting as bad as that rick fella .

AuRavelling79

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Re: Dave the cowboys first wfp efforts
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2005, 10:37:38 pm »
See! You can see the potential can't you? In six months you'll have all the niggles sorted and as pleased as Punch that you've done it. (Except the water will freeze!) ;D
It's a game of three halves!

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Dave the cowboys first wfp efforts
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2005, 10:38:55 pm »
we dont get no frost down here at all . so  :P

 ;D

poleman

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Re: Dave the cowboys first wfp efforts
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2005, 10:43:14 pm »
Have not read all your post, but your like the words.... SPOTS ;D ;D ;D ;D

Some very good advice (if you wont to take it) DONT say the words SPOTS to any your customers and they wont go looking for them ;)

Andy

P @ F

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Re: Dave the cowboys first wfp efforts
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2005, 10:47:32 pm »
So can you see yourself using it a lot more in the future then Dave ?
I use mine on every job top and bottem , and i cant see me going back ever !
Do you know i aint done an outside window by hand in over 2 weeks .

Rich   P @ F    ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Dave the cowboys first wfp efforts
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2005, 10:49:00 pm »
the customers who came out today to watch it was like the circus had come to town , yeeeaaaaah.
i dont have to mention the spots you could not miss them
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 ;D

poleman

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Re: Dave the cowboys first wfp efforts
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2005, 10:53:58 pm »
Me thinks you got the WFP bug :D have to change you company name, Spots Window Cleaning ;D

Andy

Rick

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Re: Dave the cowboys first wfp efforts
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2005, 11:19:24 pm »
well aint that just dandy :-\...........

 ;D glad it didnt go to bad dave, and thanks for the feedback, i want a full report of saturdays mission... ill be waiting as iv booked the day off as the F1 qualifying is early tommorow  :-[ i know i know......

it will be a sad day to see another trad turn WFP and dont tell me its not happening to you becasue i can tell by your post....

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well what a waffle .getting as bad as that rick fella

im just that "rick fella" now you wasnt saying that when you were mailing me every day saying us trad cleaners should stick together and inviting me down for a few days away  :-X :-\ :'(.......... ;D.... hehehe

keep us informed dave all good stuff hope that school goes well......

over and out...

"rick fella"
"excuse me..... are you a window cleaner?"
"no love im a airline pilot"
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dont you just love this job?

H h20

Re: Dave the cowboys first wfp efforts
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2005, 09:16:10 am »
I never thought we would see the day Dave,glad you`ve finally give it a go,the jobs that you use it on do get better and for the first couple of cleans and runs or dirty marks left just goes to show how much dirt doesn`t get cleaned off using trad methods so the more you use it the better the job gets,all the best with it Dave,i think the more tools you use and the more options you`ve got makes the job more interesting anyway,keep that pole on the go,Gaz. :D

williamx

Re: Dave the cowboys first wfp efforts
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2005, 10:46:13 am »
Dave

That milky smear running down the glass is the paint from the frames, it will kept on doing this for some time, but what I do which seems to work is to really scrub the frames without touching the glass, then clean your brush head and carry on with the other windows, when I have finshed them I go back to the milky one and then only clean the glass.

Sarah Sarill

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Re: Dave the cowboys first wfp efforts
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2005, 11:11:48 am »
Welcome to the dark side Dave!!!

Have you mastered the compulsory cheesy grin yet !!!!

Seriously, keep with it, in a few weeks time you will wonder why it took you so long  and dont forget Dave - you have not completely banned your loyal friend 'the ladder' to the big graveyard in the sky.  You can still use him if you feel the job requires it.

Horses for courses and right tools for the job etc................
Sarah

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Dave the cowboys first wfp efforts
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2005, 01:21:39 pm »
the milky runs were plastic framed windows ,it is just the shear amount of salt on the seaward side.as i said my brush could not wet and brush at the same time on the edges as it was sheeting towajrds the middle of the pain.

any how i found out today what wfp is realy for  ;D
i did the other school today. what a breeze it was an old victorian school with the dreaded small panes .and after a few popping connecters (got another two today , jusy one dodgey hose lock to do )and my hose springing a leak .it went very well and the results were spot on .no milking at all and sheeting perfectly.it was a hell of a lot quicker.i ran out of water just leaving all the new windows ground floor and 4 high windows to do by hand .then that is when i realy noticed the difference.what a pane i thought 100 panes to do by hand aaaarrrrgggghhh.it was horrible after the speed of wfp.all in all it was a job which justified the wfp.

John Conroy

Re: Daves first wfp efforts
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2005, 03:21:02 pm »
well well well the self Proclaimed cowboy of window cleaning has come good, good to see, maybe you cowboys out there should learn from this, why risk you neck for a 5 pound house :-\

Well done that man, I take my hat of to you :)

John
PS just keeping it real ;)

dai

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Re: Daves first wfp efforts
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2005, 04:50:56 pm »
Good on you DAVE. I too had a much better day yesterday. I made a scabbard for my pole and bolted it on the trolley. That saved me loads of time. I was doing the fronts of terrace houses, do one pole in scabbard do the next and so on. I was wheeling it with the pole extended ready for the next house. I was keeping a good look out for power cables. got cought up in a tree once but every thing else went ok. Did the backs with the ladder, not worth manovering the trolley down long back gardens to do two windows. Had 3 other wc's pull up to take a look at the system. Have to be quick to take advantage of WFP before they all get one. Have you got a veriflow fitted? It should stop you blowing off connectors as it stops the pump when you turn off the tap or dissconect. Dai

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Daves first wfp efforts
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2005, 09:43:47 pm »
dai

yes i have got the variflow fitted but i think its faulty i will ring them tommorrow .it does not shut the pump off at all

dave