[drive surgeon]

hot water machines seem an expensive luxury. i have got by without them for 6 years even doing graffiti,  i dont have the kind of money to be buying a 9 grand hot washer like somepeople    im a sole trader working on my own.

its only chewy and some oil stains or paint that you need hot water/steam.

is it worth the major expense?

[Aquakleen Restoration Services]

I dont believe so. I have a cold water system but many years ago used to use a Karcher hot water machine. I can honestly say the difference I have found is minimal.

[drive surgeon]

anyone else believe the diffence is minimimal?

[Nathanael Jones]

It'd be nice for the winter though,.. surely a hot water machine would keep the operator a few degrees further from freezing.

[Andy Foster]

It depends on the jobs you are doing.

You can buy a hot box for about £800, so no need for £9k machine!

For gum and graffiti, hot is best for general cleaning they are not necessary.

[drive surgeon]

dont you need a generator aswell for a hot box?

[Andy Foster]

either that or get it wired into your van electrics... a small camping genny would do the job though (£100 tops), doesn't have to cost a fortune or take up a lot of space.

[drive surgeon]

what hot box have you got?

 i must admit i have removed all of my graffiti with cold water so far no problem.

[Andy Foster]

not sure of the make, had it so long that there are no markings left on it.

Graffiti will of course come off with just cold water and a chemical, but steam will normaly get it all off without a chemical and then only need to remove the ghosting if necessary.

Really quick too!

[drive surgeon]

cheers andy will look into a hot box then but its all money    need to buy a new machine too for back up.