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jonnyald

fogged windows
« on: August 10, 2009, 06:50:14 am »
they look bad dont they. recently iv noticed a couple of  repair firms in my town offering to fix fogged windows, anybody know how they do that ?

stephen s

Re: fogged windows
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2009, 07:05:17 am »
how they get fogged ?     its when the seal goes on the window allowing moisture to get between the glass.


how do they repair them ?      I take it they clean between the glass and re-sea; them

jonnyald

Re: fogged windows
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2009, 07:27:24 am »
iv no idea how they fix them ,but iv heard the cost of repair is 2/3 the price of new  .    im just interested to know  how its done

AuRavelling79

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Re: fogged windows
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2009, 07:35:16 am »
It is not cost-effective to separate a sealed unit to clean it and it would nearly always break if you attempted to do so.

You unclip the beading from the inside, take measurements (Height width depth) of the glass unit and order another. You go back and put them in. Put the spacers in so as they don't block the drainage holes.

If it's a door or goes to ground level it needs to be laminated.

Price is size dependent and so a top opener 600mm x 300mm might cost you (the installer) £50 where as a 1200 x 600 might be £100. You then add on a bit of profit and your time and charge accordingly.

I've done one in my own house (UPVC) but it is so easy to mark the plastic beads. And the measurements have to be accurate, obviously.


It's a game of three halves!

tomy jackson

Re: fogged windows
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2009, 07:36:37 am »
iv heard of em drilling holes in the old seaals ,but most replase the dubull gazed unit on of my custys dus it

Londoner

Re: fogged windows
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2009, 07:39:10 am »
Malc is right, they don't repair them they just replace the unit. Its a good business, you can change a unit in minutes and its several hundred percent markup.

karygate

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Re: fogged windows
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 08:29:17 am »
the new firms drilla hole and put some sort of vent in it . they charge approx 50 quid a glass. i think the firm round here is fogx
gary

karygate

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Re: fogged windows
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2009, 10:35:27 am »
http://www.fogx.co.uk/

this is their link
gary

[GQC] Tim

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Re: fogged windows
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2009, 11:09:21 am »
the new firms drilla hole and put some sort of vent in it . they charge approx 50 quid a glass. i think the firm round here is fogx

It would pretty much defeat the purpose of having double glazing then!

windolene

Re: fogged windows
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2009, 06:17:09 pm »
Hi,

Saw this,

http://www.cloudy2clearfranchise.com/


Kevin WINDOLENE.

poles apart

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Re: fogged windows
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2009, 06:23:49 pm »
By drilling you'll allow the gases to escape that are used. A specific mix of gases is used in sealed glazed units, thats why theyre sealed, otherwise it wouldnt matter, so surely theyre less effective.

I have one at home, a small 18" x 18" one, Ill be doing what Malc said, theyre easy to fit, I fitted these originally 4 years ago when I built the place.
I used to work for a firm that made sealed units and no 'gas' is used at all.
The people who fix them drill two small holes at opposite corners, wash out the inside and dry it as much as possible then they fit a one way vent into the holes that lets the remaining moisture escape. It can take up to 12 weeks but after that they guarantee them for 20 years!

Spruce

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Re: fogged windows
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2009, 06:49:48 pm »
Hi
Do they drill holes into the glass panels? Shurely they would run the risk of cracking the glass, even with a glass cutter.  ???
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niceandclean

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Re: fogged windows New
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2009, 06:54:40 pm »
By drilling you'll allow the gases to escape that are used. A specific mix of gases is used in sealed glazed units, thats why theyre sealed, otherwise it wouldnt matter, so surely theyre less effective.

I have one at home, a small 18" x 18" one, Ill be doing what Malc said, theyre easy to fit, I fitted these originally 4 years ago when I built the place.
I used to work for a firm that made sealed units and no 'gas' is used at all.
The people who fix them drill two small holes at opposite corners, wash out the inside and dry it as much as possible then they fit a one way vent into the holes that lets the remaining moisture escape. It can take up to 12 weeks but after that they guarantee them for 20 years!

So when the units have argon gas in them, where is that put?
I had a customer who had a company called mist b gone repair 2 units, it didn't work after a few months, so they replaced the units. I would want an insurance backed guarantee, if not its not worth the paper its written on.