[paul@scc]

Hi all and would appreciated if anyone would be intrested in a recruitment agency supplying pernament and tempory staff to just the cleaning sector.

 I have put my back out so might have to give up the old cc but want to stay in the buisness so have come up with a idea of
   
 Emergency staffing solutions catered for on a hourly basis averaging about £8 ph
 Recruitment of staff for your company with a consultancy fee

These would be my first main aims
i have put together a buisness plan and it could work
would love to have input both good and bad especially in leicester as this is my home base

[martin19842]

hi there,

have sent you a pm

regards

martin

[Tim Downer]

Hi Paul
This i think is a good idea, as i am sure that all of us have at one time or other needed extra help for the odd day or week.
Guys in my business would probably use you if we have a big job every now and then and needed extra help......and you guys in the contract cleaning side of the business....Holidays, sickness...i'm sure you would have used the extra help instead of going in and doing it yourselves.

I take it as given that your temporary staff will be trained to handle all types of cleaning.....and what sort of areas will you anticipate covering (areas on the map...not cleaning areas!!)

Regards

Tim

[paul@scc]

Well first thing is all our staff will be trained for the work they will be required to do and most will be trained in machine usage aswell

we will do most of the uk depending on the job if it a 2 hour job then we will stick to the midlands if its on a longer term or full days work then travel could be arranged at a price of about 15p per mile.
If we fid a area that is using us on a regular basis then provision could be made to start a office there

[Tim Downer]

Thanx Paul
Will look out for further developments on the forum

Tim

[paul@scc]

Well the docs told me no more heavy lifting so i gotta stop the cc shame only done it for 9 months and was getting on really well. so im going ahead with the agency so if you need extra staff for builders cleans sparkle cleans or tempory cover contact me to discuss it further

[Ian Gourlay]

Paul,

Not knocking your enthusisim, and your idea could be lucrative.

But you say you have established your Carpet Cleaning Company.

You are starting a leaflet distribution arm etc.

You have or will train staff.

So why not train somewone to clean carpets for you?

And you manage.  you might have been forced to get their quicker, but put your bad luck to your advantage.

You have not been established long enough to worry about loss of reputation if cleaner not up to Mark.

[paul@scc]

oh im not gonna sell the carpet cleaner and yes i think i could train someone up as like you said its very early in my buisness to ruin my reputation but to be honest how many people would stick around being £7-8 ph when they see me making more just standing around it was the same situ as me bucket boy for a year watching my boss reap the rewards while i did the work so i setup
but with alot of post on here complaining of finding staff and leaflet distribution being 2 of there major headaches i see a piece of cake that could make me a very successful person
I have the money to invest in this type of venture and i think that it could help especially the smaller end of the market who could lose a major contract to them if a member of staff dont turn up

 As for leaflet distribution i plan to start in the midlands and work my way out

[Ian Gourlay]

Not knocking your leaflet distribution, just thought if you could generate enough work for a Carpet Cleaner through it you might aswell benifit as you have equip.

I think you would get someone for 15k plus van, who would be happy.

Nearly applied to a company myself, when I saw recent advert.

[paul@scc]

Well i will try got a bucket boy allready he can do the job might pay for him to go and do a ncca course and for 15k he would be happy and my customer basis is growing. Like you say ian if i got the kit what have i to lose

 Then it would leave me to run the recruitment side of the buisness

[Tim Downer]

Keep your fingers in a few pies??
You may be able to hire out your carpet cleaner to another cleaning company who does not specialise or do carpet cleaning. Might be worth writing to all the local cleaning companies and offer this to them.....
An added cleaner to your porfolio?? Fully trained carpet cleaner.

Regards

Tim

[Ian Gourlay]

Exactly Paul.

You will have your leaflets out for Free as you will piggy back off your other clients.
Although for accounting purpose you will charge your company the lost revenue cost to make sure leafleting the service is profitable.

You will have more time for Audits.

You could pass Martin as your Company would have more time to market.

PS The writer does not take responsibility for this advise and all readers should consult the usual people accountants lawyers bankers and anyone else who wants to take your money before using any entreprenurial skills that you may have

[garyj]

I know I do write some negative stuff on here..... but always for a reason.
The most obvious problem I  can see is, with so many cleaning companies advertising for cleaners, many will say "start tonight or tomorrow if you want", why would they sign to an agency and then wait for work to come from you? And then perhaps only be at a site for 1 or 2 days as cover, then either have no work or go to another site and get used to that.  And believe it or not, with some of the prices SOME (well at least one ) companies on here charge, they couldn't afford to pay £8.00 per hour. AND at £8.00 per hour, could you really make a living?YIKE, the more I think of it, the more problems I can think of.

I hope the idea works for you, but I see some rather big hurdles in the way.

[paul@scc]

the workers and the work so far has not been a problem only setup a few days and got a couple of days work with i hope a few bigger jobs in the pipeline the need for staff will allways out number the work and people sign with agencies for different reason so no worries there. Major cleaning companies allready use employment agencies for there staff and pay prices upto £12 ph
The major hurdles are the dti and governing bodies there is so much red tape to go through as with most agencies now we must meet certain requirements and adhere to them so im glad i worked for a recruitment agency

I also believe nothing just comes to you and you must go out and get what you can

[garyj]

I agree with your last paragraph 100%, and I sincerely hope the venture works. You have an advantage in having worked for a recruitment agency, so you know a lot more than me as to how these things can work. BUT.. if I was looking for cleaning work, I would approach a cleaning company, not an agency. Do people go to agencies and ask to be a cleaner? Or do they sign on there in the hope a half decent job might come up, but end up taking the cleaning jobs if they are pressured into it?

[paul@scc]

No they come to us as cleaners looking for work most of them want the fact that we will be able to offer them a varied amount of work and if they do not like it they are not obliged to stay on they tell us what type of hours they can do and we take that and consider them for work that comes in.There is a fast turn over of staff but so there is in the cleaning industry aswell. The best thing about us is that  cleaning firms can come to us with the safety net that we are not after there contracts and they can have a large number of staff at short notice over a certain timeline without the worry of laying them off or finding them other work.  The other market we seem to have got a couple of enquires from is the companies who employ a cleaner direct as the holiday season is approching they must cover there cleaners while they are away

[garyj]

Mmmmm, I'm coming around to the idea now. All the negatives I can think of you've probably thought yourself anyway, and by the looks of it, found the solutions.

Best of luck, and keep us posted on how it goes.