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Bob Robertson

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Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2009, 04:19:18 pm »
Darren

No problem, if you want to try it before you buy it let me know.How did you get on with the Blitz ?

Bob

Darren O

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Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2009, 06:29:26 pm »
Got it done today it went well the Blitz done the job but it took longer than expected and that was with 2 of us we used realy hot water with the Blitz then used the rotary with carpet brush and managed to get the Raptor up to 300psi and blasted it even my mate said that was the worst one we have ever done the owner was a moaning c-nt but was happy with the result in the end and paid in cash.

clinton

Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2009, 07:31:20 pm »
Darren

Did you get any picies before and after ???

Derek_Walker

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Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2009, 07:41:57 pm »
When using enzymes make sure the water you mix it up with is not boiling hot, as this will kill the enzymes.

Darren O

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Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2009, 07:49:30 pm »
Clinton i would of took pictures but ive not got a clue how to upload them to a computer thats the reason ive not joined truckmounters cant get a photo on it tried doing it with my mobile but says something like pictures to big.Derek the water was hot but not boiling didnt no that about killing enzymes if water is to hot.

clinton

Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2009, 07:57:24 pm »
Darren

No probs mate then :)


Hilton

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Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2009, 10:01:17 am »
Well done Darren you got it done in spite of us all,

Next time take mark along with you he is fountain of knowledge, I bet posters are waiting with baited breath for his next words of wisdom on all manner subjects as he types away with fury from his spare bedroom.

So far his contribution on this thread has been,

No, er , what,  ask me son,  bulls**t.


Not surprisingly hardly anyone actually read what Information I had posted but just followed the sheep mentality which is so prevelent on here by jumping on a subject with out really understanding what is being said,

The  point I was trying to make is if no hot water is available you must have a plan B a back up, to finish the job or even be in a position to take the job on in first place. This is where M-Power, Nemesis and like come into play which will clean black top despite what the scientists say on here.

Pointless trying to use a product that requires hot water to be effective if none is available.

My next point was to be careful when using hot water and high ph on a Wilton or Axminster because of previous high ph high temp cleans for reasons that seem obvious to me but several of you struggled with it.Some even thought shrinkage wasn't even a problem to concern ourselves about  ::)

Many of you seem to have an irrational, pathological aversion to some solutions if they are mentioned on here, outside of all reason, if an alternative is available that may get you through a difficult situation or even win a job you might not otherwise had a chance with, seems plain to me you have to have an alternative available.

This is where Mark comes in   BULLS**T just ask my son. er I think ,what, back me up here boys. :-*

Will

as for procedure using M-power ( I thought I had already mentioned it early in the thread:)
Vacuum
Apply M-power at 50:1
Using a stiff brush block on your rotary work in,
Extract off re -apply m-power and leave dwell for 15 mins
Get on with rest of clean-prep etc.
Go back to black top roto again, extract off
Repeat procedure as above
Until complete,

No need to soak the carpets, no need for extremes of heat or ph.
Procedure would probably be quicker with heat but not always,
each job on its own merits.

Now await the screaming and awailing from the anti everything brigade  as for me couldn't give a flying toss, I follow my own mind not the bleeters a good few of you could well do with doing the same.

I might have to consider my position on here on offering up any advice in the future if your minds are to remain so closed , you then all go back to rubbing each others ego's with out any interlopers.  ;D

 




markpowell

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Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2009, 12:41:11 pm »

I have used M Power yes, i have also used nemesis and Pureclean.
I have been cleaning carpets 11 years so i have also used just about all the detergents as well.
As far as microsplitters go Pureclean is the best followed by Nemesis imo.
The original question here was what is the best product for removing BT from a restaurant carpet, the answer by most on the forum was to hit it with high PH cleaning products, agitation then extract using heat.
Then we get someone obviously brain washed by solutions uk stating that M Power pre-spray is the best product.
Whay planet are you on Hilton, unbelievable  :-* :-*
Mark

Joe H

Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2009, 02:17:02 pm »
Sorry to say it  - but same old story.
Mention Solutions UK, M-Power, Scorpion machine and its "lets bash him" time - no matter who it is.
"brain washed by Solutions" - what a rubbish statement is, heard it so many times its boring.
and I have said this before - it shows complete lack of respect for fellow carpet cleaners, and thats not good.

I havnt got a clue who Hilton is, but he does sound pretty genuine. I do know who Stuart Clarke is, never met him but we chat on the phone every so often - very experianced carpet cleaner who knows what he is talking about.

Why cant "we" just accept that if someone like Stuart or Hilton or whoever says they get good results with M-Power then it must be correct. They would not just keeping buying it if it was "sea water" or "coloured tap water" as some have termed it. It must work for them.

and whats the difference between Nemesis Super and M-Power, both colloids and both do a similar job. There may well be differences in their make up but they are pretty similar. Ask John Kelly how much of it he sells - he wouldnt be stocking it if it didnt sell.

As for Solutions Uk - they provide a really good service to their customers and a back up to match. (but so do some others, John Kelly and Cleansmart spring to mind where I have had good service).
They are an innovative company, pushing cleaning technology forward - if you close your minds you will miss out on some really good products.
The Scorpion has to be at the top when you talk of portables. Ken Wainright has posted on Clean Talk a photo of his Scorpion, with 2" hose, mounted in his van 125' away from the job and he says it is still pulling a bit better than a 2 vac portable with 1.5" hose at 25'. Show disrepesct to that man and you are well out of order.
M-Power - best thing since sliced bread? - I doubt it, but when you hear experianced guys, and I mean experianced guys, getting results which are beyond comprehension of many, then why question it. Just cause "you" cant cut the mustard does not mean to say others cant either. Sometimes I question whether "you" want to.

You know, one day there will be a replacement for M-Power, and what will the knockers say "see, it wasnt all cracked up to be what they said", when the truth of the matter is that technology is moving forward all the time, it is not standing still. But if you not aware of it you will be left behind.

Now I am not saying stuff like Pure Clean is no good (took me some time to get used to it though) nor the likes of Powerburst (although I cannot enthuse over it to the same height as others), but obviously others are trying different products and finding success - why slam them at every opportunity.
Why not listen, if you dont want to go down that road - fine, but at least be open minded enough to listen.  We have 2 ears and 1 mouth - perhaps it means we should listen twice as much as what we speak - difficult for some, but try it.

Now I have had my two penneth (or was it five penneth) I am off for a cuppa.



Jim_77

Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2009, 03:21:04 pm »
Well said Joe :)

Hilton

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Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2009, 03:35:14 pm »
whats amazing about it Joe is no where in the thread have I said M-Power is the 'best solution'. We use all manner of diffirent solutions, as I said each job on its own merits. This lot see what there own agenda want them to see,


markpowell

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Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2009, 03:40:24 pm »
Joe,
I dont post on Cleantalk, but i do look once a week to see if there are any new posts, The fact is no matter what the question is regarding best cleaning solutions / staining, M Power is always the answer given.
Obviously the owners of the forum are not going to push any other products than there own for obvious reasons, why would they?
Joe, please just answer this question, Is M Power the best solution in your opinion to deal with restaurant black top or not?
I would ask you the same question Jim but i know what the answer would be, i know where you stand with regard to Solutions UK.
Cheers Mark.

Doug Holloway

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Re: Chinese Restarunt
« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2009, 04:17:53 pm »
Hi Guys

I have locked this as it's getting nasty and seems to have run it's useful course.

Cheers

Doug