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gsw

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Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2008, 08:12:18 pm »
if custy wasnt in i left note that if not 100% satisfied id return to do again.

Chris

this is what i offer the customer, if they are offered this how can they possibly argue against you working in the rain or even when its dark (haven't tried this yet but may well give it a go this winter) if you offer a no quibble return and reclean policy how can they complain!

i've said it before, i only stop for lightning! and i dont let the tail wag the dog!

pingu

Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2008, 08:01:37 am »
Still building my round....(will still be saying that in 2021!) but am aiming to be able to start (brush on glass) at 09:00....brush back in van at 15:00 through out the year.

Cheers
Dave.

matt

Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2008, 08:50:30 am »
working in the rain / dark

i can see my domestic customers loving that

i can hear the discussion now, well if you clean in the windows are dirty again as its raining

me, well rain isnt allways dirty

them, yes it is

now i have a option, i either :

a. punch them in the face for argueing with me
b. argue the point, give them a rain guarantee
c. explain it could rain 15 mins after i have cleaned tham anyway
d. accept that a high % or my customers are retired and will not accpet working in the rain


now options a,b and c will result in me losing the customer

option d, well thats the only choice for me


saying that, last week ( or the week before, they all blend into 1 in work ) i worked in the LIGHT rain, i would call it drizzle, a few moaned, but accepted that after the summer we have had, i needed to earn, so they were ok about, but i knew i would be pushing it all the time AND if it was any heavier i would have struggled with the idea for them

oh and also, its so bleeding miserable working in the rain, you must really need the money to work in the rain all the time, its simple not pleasant


ftp

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Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2008, 08:57:22 am »
I did some light rain jobs too but managed to deflect some of the moaning onto the terrible summer even though i felt a bit guilty. I cleaned my own windows (some) on thursday and within two days they are pretty grubby again. Cleaning in the rain does work i'm sure but they won't stay clean for long. I might even work today to try and catch up if the rain stays off but i won't if it's chucking it down. Especially if the man of the house is at home.

Simon_King

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Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2008, 11:14:08 am »
I cleaned a care home this morning in the rain (wfp) . There was no wind, rain straight down and so I just cracked on.
Did the full check round after and the result was perfect.
Must admit though I wouldnt have done houses today as the rain was quite heavy.
Saying that what would we do if it rained heavy for a month? Could happen....

Regarding working inthe dark....I do it regularly on commercial and Ive got a few domestics that I can start early on even in the winter.
Trouble with working in the dark in winter is that the temperature is lower and so you tend to get more freezing on the glass.

DaveG

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Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2008, 09:47:59 pm »
Still building my round....(will still be saying that in 2021!) but am aiming to be able to start (brush on glass) at 09:00....brush back in van at 15:00 through out the year.

Cheers
Dave.


Good idea.... i like the business plan!
You can't polish a turd

DaveG

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Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2008, 10:42:18 pm »
And yes i would work in the dark ( on commercial anyway..)
You can't polish a turd

mci services

Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2008, 11:15:54 pm »
cant see problem working in the dark ive done enough times commercial and last winter i did it with houses as it gets dark quickly in scotland

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2008, 08:26:07 am »
You can choose whether to work in the rain/dark. Its about time we as a body got rid of this customer perception of not cleaning in the rain. The idea stems from the past victorian/edwardian times of when w/cers used rat tails and chamois/scrim to clean and rain drops caused the polishing to streak. Nowadays with the use of squeegees and wfp things have moved on.

You may not want to clean in the rain if you dont like getting wet but as a group we should push that its OK for the rest of the w/cers that want/need to work.

spark1

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Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2008, 02:16:35 pm »
If you do reguler cleans with wtf you could clean with your eyes shut  8)

Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2008, 02:22:26 pm »
I guess thats the first clue.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2008, 04:05:43 pm »
I use one of those 9 - LED lights (that lets you focus to a point ) on stretchy elastic around my head like a modern lightweight miner's lamp. It's ok for ground and first floor with wfp.

But for 3rd floor and higher I've got a 5 million candle power searchlight (which will light up low level clouds) and I have rigged a remote control device and motor so that I can swivel it to each window as I go along.

My bro. is an electronics wizard and he's working on a helmet for me that lets me look in a certain direction and then the light on the van follows where I look. (I would just have the lamp on my head but to get the distance for the higher floors it's too heavy, even with the batteries in a pouch on my belt.)


My bro. designed and built a "Hover lamp" for me based on a remote control model helicopter but it wouldn't stay level in windy conditions and the tiny petrol engine made a high pitched sound which wavered as it tried to compensate for the wind. Anyway I was working at the limit of my pole (5th floor) at 3.30 am on a hotel when the occupant leaned out and shouted out that he'd thought an alien spaceship was hovering outside his room!

The manager told me to only work after 7 am so I ditched them! Muppet customers - I wish I was like Squeaky and content to be a defeatist bed warmer on £10 an hour....
It's a game of three halves!

Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2008, 04:09:43 pm »
 ;D  ;D  ;D


Very good Malc, but is that what 3,000 posts does to you?

AuRavelling79

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Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2008, 07:38:25 pm »
;D  ;D  ;D


Very good Malc, but is that what 3,000 posts does to you?

Pretty much Matt - and in case Squeaky gets the hump I'm only kidding. :)
It's a game of three halves!

Captain Scarlet

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Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2008, 07:56:28 pm »
NOTHING stops me, rain, dark...Ive only missed 2 hours since is started window cleaning, cos my hosereels froze

Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

matt

Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2008, 09:31:19 pm »
NOTHING stops me, rain, dark...Ive only missed 2 hours since is started window cleaning, cos my hosereels froze


something stopped you for 2 hours,

 ;D ;D

seandyer2003

Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2008, 10:19:07 pm »
I think i will try work till 5 still even in winter, dont know how successful i will be though??

Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2008, 05:18:03 pm »
NOTHING stops me, rain, dark...Ive only missed 2 hours since is started window cleaning, cos my hosereels froze


something stopped you for 2 hours,

Does that mean he hasn't slept either?

Re: Working in the dark?
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2008, 07:16:19 pm »
I think i will try work till 5 still even in winter, dont know how successful i will be though??

I am just in form working in the rain and work on to 6 every day any season. Dont get me wrong I dont like working when its wet, and prefer it to be sunny and rose'y. But I doesn't stop me doing my job. It cant be sunny and dry all the time.

Make the most of it, believe in what you know is true and dont let others misconceptions dictate the running hours of your business, just set them straight. If they only want there windows done when its sunny and dry tel them you cant dictate the weather, but only ensure your windows will be cleaned, and with gleaming results. If they pay you to do that, and you do regarless of the weather and they are still not happy(extreamly small tiny tiny occassion) get another who is more reasonable.

good luck this winter mate,

gerard  ;D