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clinton

How far pressure washing
« on: July 16, 2008, 08:22:19 am »
Just wondering how far you guys will work into the winter?If we have mild weather theres no reason you caint work till it gets really cold..Will it be domestic,commercial work... :)

drive surgeon

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 08:46:59 am »
i have found it tails off from august with domestic stuff, busiest times are feb to july,  one winter i had no work from  september to march/ :'( :'( :'(
last winter was my best tho,  we had a mild winter last year, if we have a bad one we can write off domestic stuff. ::)

DavyP

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 12:38:14 pm »
Winters can be tough. I'm in the fortunate position where I have a pension from a previous job and a wife who's an accountant and loves to work.  Otherwise i'd be totally up the creek without a paddle in winter. 

I do mobile valeting as well as pressure washing  and have managed to secure a number of regular commercial valets as well as commercial cleans for a local company that sells "Lifestyle Homes", which is a fancy word for caravans, all these have brick drives.

Without these i'd do nothing between November and Feb(which would be no bad thing lol).  Not good when its cold as its very easy to create a huge ice rink.  But without this work  all the little DavyP's would be very disappointed on Christmas morning as there'd be less for pressies.

Spring to Summer is always good as I can compete easily on price and tend to get a lot of repeat business or recommendations.

Personally speaking if I had to do this as my main and regular income I doubt it would work for me, mainly because I lack the drive to make it work and hate delivering leaflets etc. and not to forget the inconsistent climate we now have.

Because pressure washing is so straight forward to do (not necessarily well mind), and a low start up cost business there is a great deal of competition.  Many of these will fail, how-ever there is always another willing to give it a go so i guess its pretty much a free for all.  The majority of landscapers and gardeners now seem to have introduced pressure washing as an add on so again there is business lost there.  And don't forget our light fingered travelling friends.

The best way to stand out is to dress tidly(Company name Polo shirts etc.), have a clean, well maintained and professionally sign written van.  Make sure any leaflets are professionally printed and of good quality.  And always be consistent with your pricing, as people talk.  A professionally designed web site helps also and doesn't cost a fortune.

Also when pricing have a method, i.e charge by size of area to be cleaned, and possibly a sliding scale pricing structure.  For example up to 40m2 - £3.50 clean and re-sand, 40-80m2 £3.00 clean and re-sand, 80m2 + £2.50 clean and re-sand.   

Always be seen to measure up properly and give a proper quotation to the customer with a description of the service offered, ie Weed killing prior to clean, clean, then return to re-sand.  This way they see where there moneys going, they know youre gonna to be out working on their drive on 3 seperate occasions, albeit 10 mins weedkilling and a couple of hours washing and sanding.

There's nothing worse than giving a random guestimate of a price.

Commercial contracts are hard to come by, and again you need to have all the required documentation re Health & Safety risk statements, Public Liability Insurance etc.  And be able to provide a professional tender at a competitive price.  This requires a degree of luck and more often than not a friend in the right place.

If you're feeling the pinch and go in cheap for one customer, and the following week do a similar size job for twice the price it looks bad, and makes you seem like a cowboy.

I'm not sure if you've only started out or not but I would say if this is your first winter coming up you should seriously think of sourcing an alternative income, maybe some part-time work to supplement the minimal income you'll receive from winter pressure washing.

This is only from my perspective and on the site there are those  with established business's whom i'm sure will share a differing opinion of the winter months.  How-ever it takes effort and no small amount of luck to get to that stage, both of which I'm sadly lacking lol.

As always I will state this is my experience and is not neccesarily the same for all.

Congradulations if you're still awake having read this far........
 


drive surgeon

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 03:03:55 pm »
do you think pressure washing drives is a dying trade cos all the gardeners and ;landscapers are now getting the gear?   they seem to be advertising all over now for pressure washing and they charge the same as their normal gardening rate plus fuel charge, are they going to ruin it for us all?    i have had my best year so far but its starting to tail off. im praying for a mild winter!! ???

DavyP

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 05:27:23 pm »
Ahh just read your profile Clinton, I think as an add on it would be a great idea to add pressure washing to your carpet cleaning. 

As for is pressure washing a dying trade, I would say it would take a fair amount of sustained effort to make a reasonable living in the current financial climate bearing in mind it is so seasonal.  Hence why i also do mobile car valets.

As I said before theres no way i could pay my  mortgage etc. and enjoy a reasonable standard of living on pressure washing alone.  More so with the increase in domestic rates, gas, electricity, fuel, food etc. etc. 

Pressure washing is'nt an essential service, and as people feel the pinch they're less likely to worry about the appearance of their drive and more about covering the increasing costs of essential utilities.

Again the above is my opinion and if anyone reading disagree's and is making "loadsa money" then good for you
and long may it continue. ;D


Mike Halliday

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 05:50:38 pm »
perhaps you should look at it a different way, you are earning a years pay in six months. work hard in summer and take the winter off!!

I earn a grand a week P/W on top my carpet cleaning so really I could work may-sept then do nothing for the rest of the year and still be on £500 a week.

if i was a hippy I'd P/W in summer and f#ck off to Kerala for winter and spend the time high as a kite laying in the sun :D :D
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

drive surgeon

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 05:57:45 pm »
do you earn a grand a week profit? after all your outgoings and tax?

drive surgeon

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 06:01:53 pm »
roger oakley seems to do well all year round doing pressure washing, if you just do drives and patios  it will be seasonal!  :o

billyc

Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2008, 06:58:18 pm »
Following on from Davy P i currently offer a valeting service and maintain my regular customers throughout the summer and have to be flexible to carry out pressure washing service and upvc cleaning service.
In the winter valeting is the main source of my income and jobs that i cant commit to now are replaced with other calls for a valeting service.
I have a second hand car dealer who has entrusted me with keys to his lot and as and when he purchase vehicles i clean them .
At this time of year i usually work until 10-11 at night to keep him happy.

Winter the days are short so financially this period is not to good but it pays the bills

I also clean refrigeration units - case cleans and condenser cleaning service.

This weeks rota

Monday - painted and decorated a flat

Tuesday one drive and 5 cars

Wednesday refrigeration clean and 4 cars

Thursday full set of upvc windows and two conservatories

Friday cars all day

Saturday- large drive and patio

Sunday - HOLIDAY

Regards

Billy

DavyP

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2008, 08:29:47 pm »
It's nice to be able to think that you can earn enough in summer to see out the winter but sadly in my case theres too many variables.

For example, my wife drives a VW beetle and the abs sensor went, £1600 to repair, if that happened in winter then based on £500 pw living expenses(and we havent dealt with the issue of tax or ni contributions here) then i've only £400 to make it through the month.

My tumble drier broke down, i needed a new hall carpet, school uniforms, christmas, brownie fees(lol) etc.  Far to many random variables for me to imagine that £500 pw would be enough.  Does that £500 include the mortgage, gas, rates ,elec, insurance, mobile phone, sky tv, tv license, household insurance, endownment policies, pension contributions etc.?

The point im making is it wouldnt work for me, considering all those factors, how-evr its good to see as i said some members can get by comfortably on a seasons earnings.

But as a family man, with mortgage etc. etc. we need our combined incomes plus the extra i earn power washing and valeting etc. to make a good living.  Pressure washing alone couldnt keep me and im not high maintainence lol.

dandandan

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2008, 11:12:05 pm »
A few customers have asked me to wash their houses down before they put their xmas lights  on their houses in December,they all compete with each other (nuts),hope it`s a mi,ld one,i want a hoover to clean gutters from the ground as an add on next year,if it`s possible,i already do fascias with lance,roof cleaning looks good,do you think spraying peoples fences would work,i think doing more work for less money to even things out will be the only way to survive listening to you fellas,your depressing me,ha ha.I think i`ve had beginners luck and the bubble will burst soon,hope not.I came off holiday last week with no work,2 days after i got back 7 jobs lined up,i`ve got my fingers croosed your phones start ringing tomorrow,you just don`t know whats round the corner,it must be hard if driveways is your main or only  income,good luck,dan

mark.laycock1@ntlw

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2008, 08:11:35 am »
last year i had driveways up to xmas eve with good tips lets see want happens this time. look into advertise your driveway cleaning more ? get yourself noticed there are alot of people how are doing this work now by they are making mistakes.
mark

DavyP

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2008, 09:01:18 am »
I didn't mean to appear negative in my post Dan, I was just reflecting on how things are for me.  Please note i'm not the most driven person and I'm sure others could find plenty of opportunitys in the winter.

I wouldn't get depressed Dan, how-ever as has been said it would be a good idea to seek an alternative form of income to supplement the pressure washing and help through the winter.

dandandan

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2008, 10:51:00 pm »
I was only kiddin about depression Dave,i never imagined i`d get the work i`ve had in the first 3 months,like i said bubbles gotta pop soon,ha ha,good luck mate dan

drive surgeon

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Re: How far pressure washing
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2008, 10:46:03 am »
last two weeks slow, think cos kids are off it goes slack unless you have worked booked in.  but enqiries have cooled at mo! ::)