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paulblanchard

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(not so) Newbie saying hi
« on: February 20, 2008, 12:23:56 am »
Hello folks!

I’m going to be starting out this spring and have been lurking here for a while and I guess its time to say hello!

After leaving school (25 years ago!!) I got a job with a Birmingham based industrial cleaning firm on the windows team. Another kid and I were teamed with this guy who drove the van, he was a real to$$er to be honest and thought nothing of having us up the top of a ‘treble’ in the wind and rain while he went to “price up jobs” LOL! However it had its value – I learnt to squeegee well and work fast and learnt to get used to the ladders. Enough was enough though when it was as clear as day that I was being left to do jobs worth hundreds but getting paid £75.00 per week!
I jumped ship with the other lad after agreeing with a local domestic cleaner giving us all the work we could do at 75%. Not a bad deal I thought? We bought ladders and the rest of the gear and did well for a year or so.
Things were processing in my life -  I wanted girls! I wanted a car! It was time for a proper job! I got said proper job, but the job involved six months of training till I got the full wage for the job so I needed to supplement. Time for my own, one day a week round. I walked the streets, knocked the doors and built up a tidy Saturday round, 4 days work in total on a monthly basis….
I sold the round to the guy I used to sub from when I qualified for full pay in my job. That was 20 years ago, and I’d always missed it!
My situation is now good – I’ve a house, partner and I have a car each, both have a job etc etc, but things could be better – everything is going through the roof – gas, electric, water, interest, petrol etc. I have had my work patten altered recently too, I now do a four day week. I can easily spare one day a week to find something that will pay for a few luxuries in life and I recon W/C fits the bill!
I aim to build a round on a monthly clean basis, one day per week from scratch. Purely traditional cleaning as I can not finance WFP nor could justify it for 1 day a week either, better to stick with what I know I think? I know how to knock for work, what tends to work and what doesn’t but then again, every area is different and everyone is feeling the pinch as well….

I recon approx £500.00 start up cost? Going for double and single pointers, mops / scrims, Squeegee’s and scrubbers etc and of course, public liability. Going to be telling the taxman within the first 3 months too, but don’t imagine I’ll have much of a tax bill for the fist year due to the start up cost? I think a ‘company’ polo shirt/sweatshirt/cap etc look great too so shall be looking into those as well.
Present cleaners in the Blackpool area should note that I will only be targeting ‘dirty’ houses first. Should several houses in one street tell me they already have a cleaner I shall be moving on and will not be giving prices to those houses either. There is tonnes of work out there for all of us, I know this as I’ve been looking and asked folk for the last 3 months now and they are crying out for a decent cleaner…. (you have nothing to fear from me, I am but a tadpole in a large pond!)

I will ask of you collective experience though – Ettore or Pulex squeegee’s? I seem to pick up a definite leaning towards pulex soft rubbers from the past threads but what about the squeegee’s?

Oh yea, I’m a fairy man by the way…… Be careful how you read that! I mean I’m a fairy liquid cleaner – I can make it work well, why change? Plus I believe the customer likes to see the suds, as log as the residue is cleaned off the sill….

Look forward to you thoughts!
Paul

supernova77

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Re: (not so) Newbie saying hi
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2008, 12:28:51 am »
Hi mate,

Welcome to the forum!

You could get a new WFP trolley system for around £1k? You would be a lot safer, and WFP is much quicker than trad enabling you to make more money?

It's worth thinking about...

Andy

paulblanchard

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Re: (not so) Newbie saying hi
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2008, 01:07:44 am »
Hi
Yes I fully understand what you are saying.
I'm lucky that ladders do not faze me due to my 'pervious' but a totally newbie it would deffo be the way forward but for me, i feel the best way is to put my time and energy into the door knocking. I know that some customers don't like WFP so I'll happily be scooping those up  :D
I Remember when i started on domestics after doing commercial - domestic customers didn't like the squeegee! maybe thay thought as it was so quick, it can't be doing a good job? anyone else remember?
My round will have to change over to the pole though (looking well ahead here!) and i know that I'll have to educate my customers.
That suits me though as in a couple of years my oldest lad will be at the age where he'd be glad of a saturday job and i'd love to be able to provide for him, even if its not actually cleaning the windows.
Paul

Blackbushe Windows

  • Posts: 349
Re: (not so) Newbie saying hi
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2008, 05:06:35 pm »
Paul, Unger ergotec squeegee's are the best in my opinion. They are light and can be cotrolled by your fingertips. Believe me, there will be times when that will come in handy if you stick to trad.

Welcome to the forum.

Peter
Blackbushe Windows.
Est. 1983
www.blackbushewindows.co.uk

clunk1977

  • Posts: 40
Re: (not so) Newbie saying hi
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 04:45:34 pm »
hi mate i just starting out traditional also and is a very exciting and nervous time. i getting plenty of work at moment from friends and family and word of mouth. Got some flyers and business cards being printed and looking forward to the future. hope it goes well mate. clunk

Jeff Brimble

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Re: (not so) Newbie saying hi
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 06:26:39 pm »
Here you go Paul http://www.windowcleaningcoach.com/
but maybe think about wfp at the same time cause you wont fall off.

paulblanchard

  • Posts: 3
Re: (not so) Newbie saying hi
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2008, 01:41:22 am »
Thanks for the words guys
I shall report back when things get moving!
Paul

Blackbushe Windows

  • Posts: 349
Re: (not so) Newbie saying hi
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2008, 07:47:56 am »
Paul, many on here extol the virtues of wfp, but many of them were trad for a considerable time before that.

Some still are.



Peter
Blackbushe Windows.
Est. 1983
www.blackbushewindows.co.uk