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davids3511

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Using casual labour
« on: September 17, 2007, 03:53:41 pm »
Hi All

I was recently poping my leflets through some doors in the local area when a young lad in one of the houses followed me out to ask if I had any work going. I said not much but that I could do with a couple of hours of someone helping me to deliver the leaflets. He said he would be happy to anything as it was to supplement going to college.

I was thinking of taking him out to help me for a few hours this week. Am I opening myself up to problems and how much should I offer him for about 2 hours of evening work?


Thanks

David

geefree

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Re: Using casual labour
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2007, 09:14:02 pm »
I wish i had that offer.... the only problem is , will he deliver them....?

i would first offer him the basic, which is around 3.65 per hour...
 but i would have him make a list of each street and numbers of houses he delivers to....... saying that you always follow up your leaflet drops with a knock on the door a few days later...

then i would do just that... and if its all good .. give him a tenner per night.

but its easy for me to say.

gary.

geefree

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Re: Using casual labour
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2007, 09:25:21 pm »
come on guys help him  ::)

geefree

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Re: Using casual labour
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2007, 02:23:19 am »
hmmmm

jouk45

Re: Using casual labour
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2007, 07:48:43 am »
is the young lad 16. heres a guide line of the minimum wage

£5.35 per hour for workers aged 22 years and older
A development rate of £4.45 per hour for workers aged 18-21 inclusive
£3.30 per hour for all workers under the age of 18, who are no longer of compulsory school age.

Re: Using casual labour
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2007, 10:55:04 am »
is the young lad 16. heres a guide line of the minimum wage

£5.35 per hour for workers aged 22 years and older
A development rate of £4.45 per hour for workers aged 18-21 inclusive
£3.30 per hour for all workers under the age of 18, who are no longer of compulsory school age.
couple of hours give the lad a tenner, try him out if it dont work its only a tenner so will not break the bank

Central Window Cleaners

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Re: Using casual labour
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2007, 10:59:57 am »
For leaflet dropping I normally pay them 2 - 3p per leaflet rather than by the hour as they seem to put more out that way. but as mentioned about tell him you will be following up in a week with a door knock to see if they got the leaflets

danny mckim

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Re: Using casual labour
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2007, 11:18:28 am »
Why not give him a tenner a night as well as a bonus for each customer you get from his leaflet dropping. This will give him a incentive and he will work with a smile!


                           Danny

davids3511

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Re: Using casual labour
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2007, 11:35:53 am »
Hi

Thanks for the input guys. I was intending to use him to assist me to do the drops. I was going to go along too so wouldn't worry so much about him not putting them out as I would be there.

To be honest I couldn't offer him £3.30 an hour and not feel like a poop. I wouldn't expect anybody to give me an hour of their evening time for £3.30. A tenner for a couple of hours work plus 50% of the first clean if I got any customers sounds fair to me. What do ya all think, am I being over generous?

Thanks all

David

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Using casual labour
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2007, 01:01:48 pm »
you will definately need employers liability insurance for a start.

Also you will need to put away approx 10% on top of what there wage is for holiday pay.

You will also have to administer there paye and ni and pay employers ni contributions on anything over £100 a week  works out 11% i think.

Dont forget to cater for when the are sick or just simply dont turn up .

Play it straight from the start and you will sleep better at night, you simply cant pay cash for casual labour anymore

Dave

davids3511

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Re: Using casual labour
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2007, 04:00:14 pm »
Hi

I had only intended using him for 3 or 4 evenings. I have about 1000 leaflets I want to get out asap. Surely there is some way I can do that without taking out employers insurance. How do freelances get paid then?

David

Count Phil

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Re: Using casual labour
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2007, 04:22:28 pm »
Just do what you suggested.