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Neil-MDC

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different job tasks
« on: July 07, 2007, 09:32:53 pm »
hey folks just out of interest how do you plan your cleans and which order do you complete them?

i'm fairly new to this so just seeing if i can pick up any tips!!

obviously different jobs have different specs, for example how would a domestic clean be different to an office?

Bertie Boo

Re: different job tasks
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2007, 09:43:39 pm »
You will only know by talking to your client. Office work is all about cleaning the areas that can be seen and little else. You also need to agree FULLY what is included, desk cleaning can be a nightmare and something that causes a lot of complaints. The office i cleaned had the desks wiped with a wet cloth ONCE a week and that involved moving nothing. If i couldnt wipe it then it got left. In fact i managed to almost squirm out of desk cleaning.

Domestic cleaning, well, i often wonder how i got to know just what people like me doing, and i never forget that for a lot of folk if they like you and are reliable then they will be very flexible if you do occasionaly forget to do something. It is no excuse for being bloody good, but at the same time we workers forget that the actual cleaning is only part of the package, i know someone who had a mediocre service for a long time but he carried on as the company was reliable...


The way i do it is this: How much do i want to get paid for the job and how long will i want to spend doing it (including travelling time and time spent taking things out of the car/putting them back). As an example if you have only 2.5 hours to do a job its amazing how you can shoe-horn the work in because you know u have no choice not to  ;D

Dont forget that when people have had cleaners paid by the hour and using the clients stuff then a large portion of time will have been spent hunting down cleaning stuff and dusters that have been moved from the broom cupboard, or unblocking the vacuum cleaner. If you have your own stuff then you know EXACTLY where to find it and you never run out. I have an absolute minimum of TWO of everything in my car (except for step ladders, i only have one).

Bertie


Neil-MDC

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Re: different job tasks
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2007, 10:07:59 pm »
bertie how much would you normally charge for a domestic clean on say a 3 bed semi?

give me your e-mail address and i will send you a card, tell me what you think.

Bertie Boo

Re: different job tasks
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2007, 10:39:11 pm »
Hey! My addy is sm012g5170@blueyonder.co.uk

I must add that to my profile (it says hidden).

It is an impossible task to quote 'blind' though i know a lot of places do say "2 bed is £xxx, 3 bed £xxxx" etc.

It is rude to ask BUT if you find out who the client had before you then you have a fair idea how much they will pay. If anyone i meet says they had Molly Maids then i know that they've been paying at least £30 plus VAT for a weekly call as that base figure seems the 'norm' for MM in my area.

For all new clients I simply do not want to go anywhere for less than £30 a time now. My old price was £25 so £30 is my 'new' £25, and £25 has become my absolute bottom line wont-get-out-of-bed-to-clean-up-a-pee-pee price that i quote for smaller jobs or anyone who i'm doing a 'discount' for.

I dont know how but i make the work fit the time i have allowed and if you are good and throrough you can 'rotate' the less frequent jobs (or even miss some when you are pushed for time) and do them when it suites you. I will never cease to be amazed at what folk DONT expect you to do.

You need to remember this:

Times have changed and a gossipy old lady who comes in once a week to 'help' is a thing of the past. People know this and accept that even if their job is smaller they may have to pay not a lot less than a bigger job.

If needs be (when you are busy this is) avoid very small jobs. I clean for an optician and after a year of doing his house i went to clean the practice as well. Easy job, nice staff, took less than an hour, £10 thank you very much, then i thought "poo! what am i supposed to do for the next 2 hours?" A year of that and i gave it up. I said that i couldnt charge more BUT at teh same time i was 'missing out' on a bigger (better even?) job. He understood.

People will pay more for someone who brings their own stuff. It is never easy when folk cancel bookings (esp at the last minute) but keep in mind that no one does this unless absolutly essential. As such i personally never charge for cancellations and, far from encouraging folk to cancel as a regular thing, it has made them more loyal and open and honest to me. This is my experience, others may have equally vaild counter claims to make.

I really belive that you just cannot afford to get peoples backs up, i think when you have spent weeks and weeks getting the customers house up to standard do you really want to lose them and start afresh with a new client?

I also rarely quote verbally because as a customer i HATE getting verbal quotes as i need time to allow the information to sink in and, if the price is obsurd, grab hold of a nearby item of furniture before realising a whole loads of words that i only ever use when people dont indicate when driving round islands.  i always always alwasys tell people i will write to them and say there is NO pressure. Email me and i will send you a copy of what i send out.

If you say you will write then make sure you do, i hate it when you wait for a quote, and wait....and wait...and wait....you will rarely get an immediate phone call as people will want to get other quotes, they will want to sort out and tidy up (how many of use have been to see a right poo-hole only to find that people have recarpeted/tidied up/decorated since we last went?), in other words send your quote and FORGET ALL ABOUT IT. People will call if they want you. Rarely is it i dont get a job, even if its weeks or months after you saw them before they call you. If you dont get a job then NEVER assume its because of price as it most likley isn't anything to do with it.

If people are willing to pay for a service then they will pay as much as is sensible to get a good service. One lady who had an agencey for donkeys years was paying £19 a week (i later found out). she cancelled her cleaners when she was made redundant, then couldnt get them back. I was recomended to her and I quoted £25 per week. I got the job and after 6 months she said that she was going to cut me back to once a fortnight because -her words- i was doing a much better job and she really didnt need me every week. A victim of my own sucess maybe, but she really didnt need a weekly as she lived alone and made little mess. In any even i managed to find someone else to fill the other weeks when i wasnt there.

As a side thought she said though the other cleaners were ok she did like the fact that having me meant she knew she'd get the same person each time and she liked the fact i  had all my own stuff (it really allows you to do a better job).

Bertie

Neil-MDC

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Re: different job tasks
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2007, 10:52:17 pm »
i'm guessing when you say weekly you mean once a week?
 when i worked for a company cleaning we used to go clean show homes and their office twice a week. once on a monday and once on a friday. only took 2 of us half an hour for each time.

Neil

Bertie Boo

Re: different job tasks
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2007, 11:06:13 pm »
Sorry Neil, yes, weekly i mean 'once a week'. I also mis-use the term 'showhome' a lot, for me i am refering to a persons house that looks like a 'showhome' and not an actual showhome lol  ::)

Bertie

Neil-MDC

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Re: different job tasks
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2007, 11:10:09 pm »
its ok Bertie i no what you mean. Have you thought about doing show homes? they are pretty easy.

Bertie Boo

Re: different job tasks
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2007, 11:32:40 pm »
yes i have thought about it, but didnt do much investigation. Then i got busy doing domestic work.

Have you any links etc you can show me about showhomes?

Bertie

Neil-MDC

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Re: different job tasks
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2007, 11:51:35 pm »
i have no real info at the moment. basically the show home is the first thing a customer see's before buying a house. it has all the furniture in it etc. all we used to do was whip around with the hoover and polish every single surface, get rid of cobwebs and spray air freshner. job done 25 quid invoice.