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freshwater

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Re: NEW POLE FROM UNGER
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2006, 09:23:08 pm »

The only weakness I can see is the joints. What are they like over time after a few hundred couples & uncouples and can they be repaired?

steve@freshwatersystems.co.uk

Jeff Brimble

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Re: NEW POLE FROM UNGER
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2006, 09:43:07 pm »
Aztec a " bag" may not tbe he way to go (even though thats how it is now) I find an almost  horizontal method of storing better. you need an "open" bag structure.

aztec

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Re: NEW POLE FROM UNGER
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2006, 09:52:58 pm »
i just meant the golf bag design that it comes with seems like a good idea jeff mate

Chris A

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Re: NEW POLE FROM UNGER
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2006, 10:06:03 pm »
keep the joints clean and I'm sure you will get years of service from  it, we've used it for 2 or 3 months and as long as you clean it when you put it away it will last forever maybe

Jeff Brimble

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Re: NEW POLE FROM UNGER
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2006, 10:28:32 pm »
when you are putting up moduar poles you need them pointing towards- in the direction of the building, so that you can quickly put the top section from the "bag"into the bottom section like a machine gun. in the adverts that I have only seen pics of,  the holder is facing the wrong way and is too tall to allow this.
chris A ......Whats the weight of each section ?

Alex Gardiner

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Re: NEW POLE FROM UNGER
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2006, 02:14:04 pm »
Hi Jeff,

the weight of the Unger pole seems to be a closely guarded secret!

One of our customers rang Unger and they allegedly told him that at 45ft it weighed 7.5kg without brush and gooseneck, now I have weighed the brush and gooseneck and they were about 700g so I would put it at 8.2kg. This would make each section about 830g (having held one I would say easily that)

However I said this to one of my most experienced customers, who has experience with many different types of high level poles and he (having used an Unger pole) said 'rubbish' he reckons that it was  heavier still.

Of course on the upside is that when you use it at 35ft it would only weigh about 6.56kg and so on down the height range.

Anyone from Unger out there, could you tell us.

Alex

Chris A

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Re: NEW POLE FROM UNGER
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2006, 03:10:16 pm »
Jeff,       
       I've just tried to weigh a section on the kitchen scales so I don't know how accurate the figures will be but the goose neck and 16 inch brush weighed 2 pounds and 1 section weighed a little under 2 pounds

Jeff Brimble

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Re: NEW POLE FROM UNGER
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2006, 07:05:18 pm »
Thanks for taking the trouble Chris, I understand kitchen scales, they are what I use.
I reckon 8 oz max for a brush  at 60ft    :o

Chris A

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Re: NEW POLE FROM UNGER
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2006, 07:35:23 pm »
Jeff,
  I'm not sure what you mean with the shocked face. The brush and goose neck were weighed together. Does this mean I've bought a bad product? I'm not trying to sell the pole or convince myself that it's a good investment it just suits our work. Like I said I'm no expert and this is the first pole I've used so I can't compare it to any other. It seems like everybody is trying to put down the Unger pole for no reason apart from they can't afford it. Unger like every other manufacturer will have invested a few quid in the design of this thing, they've got a pretty good reputation don't you think so it's gonna come down to the end user (us). Pay for it or design one yourself as good as the unger one and if it's better I'll buy it.

eddie d

Re: NEW POLE FROM UNGER
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2006, 08:11:01 pm »
was this the pole(unger)that comes in a golf like bag on a trolly.if so looked at it at exel and thought bit bulky,pain putting together all the time .

eddie d

Re: NEW POLE FROM UNGER
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2006, 08:12:31 pm »
is that what the new gardiner pole is like .or are the telescopic.?????????????//

Jeff Brimble

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Re: NEW POLE FROM UNGER New
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2006, 08:29:49 pm »
Chris, I agree about paying for what you get. I am sure you looked at alternatives before you bought your sytem. You obviously like it.
I have been trying to get weights for the Unger since December so that others can make informed decisions. I cannot put in links to the "another forum" topic where I keep it, so for others here is a "paste" of part of my topic, I will update it with your approximate weights shortly.
Ergo lite Carbon fibre  X 8ft approx weight. Pole only
 
1 sect     1 lb                      .455 kg
2 sect     1 lb 2 oz       2 lb 2 oz                 .964 kg
3 sect     1 lb 5 oz       3 lb 7 oz                   1.56 kg     24ft
4 sect     1 lb 8 oz       4lb 15 oz                2.34 kg
5 sect     1 lb 11 oz     6 lb 10 oz                3kg
6 sect     1 lb 14 oz     8 lb 8 oz                3.86 kg
7 sect     2 lb      10 lb 8 oz                      4.72 kg
8 sect     2 lb 12 oz    13 lb 4 oz                6.01 kg
     
Facelift (inc pipe gooseneck and brush)
19ft 3 sect 2.24kg glassfibre
24ft 4 sect 2.84
29ft 5 sect 3.38
34ft 8 sect 4.12
34 6 sect  3.08 carbonfibre
44ft 8x6          5.07
54ft 6x8+2x4 7kg
 
 
Featherlite Fishing Polepole
 7 sect  29ft  2lb 7oz/1.3kg   http://d.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=194
15sect 63ft   7lb  3.2kg   ( Also makes 2 seperate 12 & 9m poles )
Now comes with insulated adjustable sections to protect against shock

OMNI Several requests have been made regarding the weight of poles,backpack and trolleys.
so here are the weights of Omnipole kit, as you will see the Aircraft alloy PowerPoles are lighter than the carbon fibre equivilent lengths. 
 
PowerPoles
12' 2x 6'=1.2Kg
18' 3 x6'=1.9Kg
24' 4x6'=2Kg
30' 5x6'=3.3 Kg
36' 6x6'=4.2Kg
48' 6x8'=5.5Kg
Carbonfibre poles
48' 6x8'=6.5Kg
60'1x6'4x12'1x6'=7Kg
Fibreglass Poles
12' 2x6'=1.4Kg
24' 4x6'=2.9Kg
Brush head with 12" gooseneck,and all fittings =1Kg
Omni Back pack empty =5.5Kg -full =21.5Kg
Omnitrolley 50 empty =27Kg -full=77Kg
Omnitrolley 125 weight to follow

UNger Alu
To shortly go in the A_Z
Unger Alu poles approx weight,   X 6ft  Goose neck/elbow 6 oz Brush 13oz (28cm)
                          culmanative
1 sect.     11 oz                      .312kg                                           
2 sect    1lb               1 lb 11 oz     .765kg
3 sect    1 lb 6 oz       3 lb 1oz                 1.39 kg
4 sect    1 lb 12 oz      4 lb 13 oz               2.18 kg                  24ft
5 sect    2 lb               6 lb 13 oz     3.09 kg           30ft
 
6*         2 lb 8 oz  9 lb    5 oz            4.22 kg
7*         2 lb 8 oz    11 lb 13 oZ           5.35 kg
 
6&7 are made up DIY sect consisting of double ended poles. In use the pole becomes unusable about 40ft due to whip.