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Perfect Windows

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2025, 11:52:48 am »
Good point. And the maths is the same: if you're on the EV tariff and you heat the water with the immersion heater, again you're looking at about £1.50.

One of our guys had an immersion heater fitted and, with an inch of Celotex insulation, it would stay warm enough all day.

Vin

the king

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2025, 08:29:45 pm »
a immersion heater sounds ok but running a thermo pure would be better as you get much hotter water im not sure if they added to leisure batterys as a buffer to the main van battery ?

the king

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Perfect Windows

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2025, 02:37:14 pm »
Another thought. Charging the van battery and running a 3kW immersion at the same time would add up to about 50 amps running through your house wiring. Not insignificant and worth checking with the sparky fitting the EV charger.

Vin

windowswashed

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2025, 06:42:56 pm »
Extension lead for van has a maximum of 3150 watts fully unwound but 720watts coiled on reel for a 13amp extension lead which would start a house fire as the lead would melt for sure if running 3kw immersion heater and that's without using a battery charger.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2025, 07:20:49 pm »
Extension lead for van has a maximum of 3150 watts fully unwound but 720watts coiled on reel for a 13amp extension lead which would start a house fire as the lead would melt for sure if running 3kw immersion heater and that's without using a battery charger.

When I had a 3kw element I used a 16amp caravan socket.

But when I changed tanks I went for 2kw and reverted to standard 13 amp plugs.
It's a game of three halves!

AuRavelling79

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2025, 07:26:07 pm »
Another thought. Charging the van battery and running a 3kW immersion at the same time would add up to about 50 amps running through your house wiring. Not insignificant and worth checking with the sparky fitting the EV charger.

Vin

Yes. And if you are future proofing you might want to consider that your house might be supplying two EVs (van and family car) and an immersion.

Always check with a qualified electrician.
It's a game of three halves!

Ched

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2025, 08:03:06 pm »
Another thought. Charging the van battery and running a 3kW immersion at the same time would add up to about 50 amps running through your house wiring. Not insignificant and worth checking with the sparky fitting the EV charger.

Vin
Quite often the sparky installing the EV charger will ask the DNO (Distribution Network Operator) to install a 100Amp supply fuse it the incoming cable is of sufficient size.

Perfect Windows

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #48 on: Yesterday at 07:32:16 pm »
So, yesterday was crunch time.

Set off at 5:30 to reach Cleevely Motors in Cheltenham by 8am.

They dropped the battery out in about 45 minutes then the fun started - basically they left the vehicle on one of their ramps for us to work on it.

Above the propulsion battery the Vivaro floor is pretty flat but with a few braces running across it.



On top of the battery is all this. The middle set of hoses is roughly where the bulkhead sits.



So the fun is fitting the spreader plates and associated bolts under the floor such that they aren't over the wiggly coolant hoses in the pic above and (obviously) are on a flat, brace-free part of the underside of the floor. But for 16mm, it should all have been so simple. However, it wasn't. The problem was a brace rather than a hose. After a huge amount of head-scratching we came up with a compromise, so our rear spreader plates don't have a central hole, they have one 16mm off centre. However, given it's a 100x200x10 plate, that's not going to be a problem.

All in all, fitting the tank cage and all the rest took five hours but it's done.

Now just to refit all the other crap that goes in the back of the van...

Other thoughts.

Still an utterly lovely van to drive.
Motorway miles absolutely hammer the range. 170 indicated miles turned into 135 despite sticking to 60mph.
Country roads mean you get as many miles as you're expecting
Town driving, you have more miles than the indicator tells you
Driving down from Birdlip into Cheltenham (a five mile drive) not only didn't use any electrons; it added six miles of range
We added 100 miles in about 20 minutes at a high speed charger. Cost us £33. Hopefully the last one ever (see next point).
At home we added 100 miles (our weekly maximum mileage) overnight via our new EV charge point. Cost us £3.50.
Today's UPS, DPD and Amazon deliveries (various bits for filling the van with crap) were all electric vans.

That's all.

Vin