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Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #380 on: January 31, 2025, 04:51:02 pm »
I won't get stranded nor will it catch fire.

Fire risk already covered in the thread

PS. My favourite stats on fires come from an article about Tusker fleet management. (1)  They have 30,000 EVs and "the company’s insurance records show that not a single one of the EVs on its fleet have caught fire." (2) "A study by the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency backs up Tusker’s findings. It concluded that EVs are 20 times less likely to catch fire than petrol and diesel cars."
Both quotes from an excellent article at https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/tusker-fleet-data-reveals-the-truth-about-ev-fires

But that article already quoted includes this about running out of energy:

"The second myth highlighted by Tusker was that EV drivers often run out of electricity, leaving them stranded.

No one is denying that an EV with a flat battery is bit more tricky to get going again than a petrol or diesel car with a dry tank, but Tusker’s data shows that the number of its customers who ran out of juice in their EV was the same as the number who ran out of fuel.

Wisdom said: “Our stats shows that most people aren't running out of electricity. It's a tiny, tiny percent and it's pretty much the same as people who run out of fuel.

“There are always going to be some careless people out there, but this is this is not a phenomenon that we're seeing in our fleet.”


Vin

AuRavelling79

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #381 on: January 31, 2025, 05:28:58 pm »
Anyway Bungle, you still haven't explained why you would put '100% Diesel' on your van.
It's a game of three halves!

Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #382 on: February 14, 2025, 01:39:53 pm »
Sooo, as I've said, I've been waiting for the right one to turn up.

Just bought a three year old Vivaro electric. 16,000 miles, grade one condition (a single tiny dent on it about an inch long). Looks almost brand new. £9,400. Insane price. With all fees, etc, £9,900. Still an insane price.

The only not-so-wonderful part is that it's at BCA in Glasgow, so that's next Wednesday written off.

Vin

KS Cleaning

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #383 on: February 14, 2025, 03:42:58 pm »
Sooo, as I've said, I've been waiting for the right one to turn up.

Just bought a three year old Vivaro electric. 16,000 miles, grade one condition (a single tiny dent on it about an inch long). Looks almost brand new. £9,400. Insane price. With all fees, etc, £9,900. Still an insane price.

The only not-so-wonderful part is that it's at BCA in Glasgow, so that's next Wednesday written off.

Vin
I do hope the van is as described. BCA have come in for a lot of criticism with their grading and vehicle description at online auctions. Given the distance you’re travelling I would be asking them if you can arrange to have an independent vehicle inspection done prior to travelling.

Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #384 on: February 14, 2025, 04:15:58 pm »
I do hope the van is as described. BCA have come in for a lot of criticism with their grading and vehicle description at online auctions. Given the distance you’re travelling I would be asking them if you can arrange to have an independent vehicle inspection done prior to travelling.

I have a friendly garage who do the buying for me - I've seen close-up pics of the (very minor) damage. This is the sixth vehicle they've bought for me and they've all been bang on the money, but there's always a first time. (Look out for the screaming post on Wednesday morning as I arrive to find a pile of rust with a number plate on top).

Vin

KS Cleaning

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #385 on: February 14, 2025, 04:37:18 pm »
I do hope the van is as described. BCA have come in for a lot of criticism with their grading and vehicle description at online auctions. Given the distance you’re travelling I would be asking them if you can arrange to have an independent vehicle inspection done prior to travelling.

I have a friendly garage who do the buying for me - I've seen close-up pics of the (very minor) damage. This is the sixth vehicle they've bought for me and they've all been bang on the money, but there's always a first time. (Look out for the screaming post on Wednesday morning as I arrive to find a pile of rust with a number plate on top).

Vin
I suppose there is always an element of risk involved, hope all goes well.

Ched

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #386 on: February 14, 2025, 05:04:00 pm »
I do hope the van is as described. BCA have come in for a lot of criticism with their grading and vehicle description at online auctions. Given the distance you’re travelling I would be asking them if you can arrange to have an independent vehicle inspection done prior to travelling.

I have a friendly garage who do the buying for me - I've seen close-up pics of the (very minor) damage. This is the sixth vehicle they've bought for me and they've all been bang on the money, but there's always a first time. (Look out for the screaming post on Wednesday morning as I arrive to find a pile of rust with a number plate on top).

Vin
Make sure you have the charger apps installed on your phone and don't leave it till the last mile to get charged. Double check you have appropriate charging cables - most fast chargers have their own cables fitted but the slower ones might need your own cable. Take a few different credit cards with you if you can. Using heated seats and steering wheel will gain you mileage vs using the heater.
Don't enjoy the torque till you get home :-)
It's a long journey to make in an electric vehicle, it will take you significantly longer than you thing when you add in charging time.  Once home you will be fine.

Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #387 on: February 14, 2025, 05:11:29 pm »
Make sure you have the charger apps installed on your phone and don't leave it till the last mile to get charged. Double check you have appropriate charging cables - most fast chargers have their own cables fitted but the slower ones might need your own cable. Take a few different credit cards with you if you can. Using heated seats and steering wheel will gain you mileage vs using the heater.
Don't enjoy the torque till you get home :-)
It's a long journey to make in an electric vehicle, it will take you significantly longer than you thing when you add in charging time.  Once home you will be fine.

Thanks for the tip about the apps. I was told that yonks ago but had forgotten. Thanks for reminding me.

I'm of the opinion that this should be the only trip I ever need to do using public chargers so hopefully it's worth the hassle. It wouldn't be an easy drive in a diesel but this adds a layer of uncertainty.

Vin

Scottish Cleaning Service

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #388 on: February 14, 2025, 05:30:47 pm »
In life I have found that cheap doesn't mean you are getting a bargain. Reason its cheap is because not many buyers out there. As I said before the EV industry may change if Trump gets in. He is now in and making changes to the EV industry. Hope all goes well for you and you can give an update on your new EV van. We need the likes of your experience to give us ideas in the future.

zesty

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #389 on: February 15, 2025, 08:40:29 am »
Sooo, as I've said, I've been waiting for the right one to turn up.

Just bought a three year old Vivaro electric. 16,000 miles, grade one condition (a single tiny dent on it about an inch long). Looks almost brand new. £9,400. Insane price. With all fees, etc, £9,900. Still an insane price.

The only not-so-wonderful part is that it's at BCA in Glasgow, so that's next Wednesday written off.

Vin

Keep us updated and make sure to post a review after a few weeks working with it.

I suspect the journey home will be a giant slog, cold weather and motorways aren’t gonna get you far between charges.

The main thing is how well it suits the window cleaning game. Keep us updated in due course.

Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #390 on: February 15, 2025, 10:24:55 am »
I'm focusing as hard as I possibly can on this journey being a one-off. After that, I can't see us ever again having to deal with charging.

I'll probably start a new thread next Thursday to log how it goes.

Vin

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #391 on: February 15, 2025, 11:33:39 am »
Yea keep us all updated.  I'm sure many of us are working out when's the best time to make the change.

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Perfect Windows

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #392 on: February 15, 2025, 12:27:16 pm »
Yea keep us all updated.  I'm sure many of us are working out when's the best time to make the change.

Internal combustion vehicles are going to be sold until 2030. Given most on here probably buy used, that means you maybe have ten years before you have to make the jump.

To some extent it depends on your motivation. It's not just (or even) about cost for me, it's also about doing a tiny bit towards handing over a planet in slightly better nick when I pop my clogs and maybe not damaging kids' brains with particulates (I'll stress that I've been relentlessly doing that without a care in the world all my driving life).

Some will do it for money, some for principles, some will be dragged kicking and screaming when there's no alternative but putting your head in the sand and pretending it's not coming isn't a solution.

Vin

AuRavelling79

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Re: Electric vans
« Reply #393 on: February 21, 2025, 03:57:46 pm »
Now Vin has started a new thread entitled Going electric - I'm locking this one.

Use his new one for comments.
It's a game of three halves!