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NBwcs

  • Posts: 881
Total non cleaning hours per week.
« on: June 03, 2020, 01:25:53 pm »
Just wondering how we all compare with how much non cleaning hours we put into a week. Including anything which isn't cleaning or driving to jobs ie file maintenance, accounts, collecting, equipment maintenance, washing the van, quotes, etc, how many hours are you doing as  a sole trader? I reckon I must be doing  at least 5 hrs, although I don't help myself as I use excel rather than a round organiser. I have more and more custys going over to bacs but there will always be a % who want to pay cash.  I'm just curious as to how much the non cleaning hours varies between us. Oh and please use pre lock down analysis as I know collecting is a pure pleasure at the moment but isn't the norm. Cheers.

Ascjim

  • Posts: 220
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2020, 02:35:42 pm »
I do 15 hours, but I'm not on the tools.

zesty

  • Posts: 2454
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2020, 02:36:56 pm »
I think it’s probably much easier to tell you what hours we work, rather than the opposite.

I average 4-5 hours a day at work.

Maybe 30-45 mins a day dealing with emails, calls, texts, & accounts.

That’s it  :)


AuRavelling79

  • Posts: 25392
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2020, 05:09:17 pm »
Driving time eats into many rounds. Constant pruning and adjustment pays good dividends.
It's a game of three halves!

dazmond

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Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2020, 05:15:54 pm »
Just wondering how we all compare with how much non cleaning hours we put into a week. Including anything which isn't cleaning or driving to jobs ie file maintenance, accounts, collecting, equipment maintenance, washing the van, quotes, etc, how many hours are you doing as  a sole trader? I reckon I must be doing  at least 5 hrs, although I don't help myself as I use excel rather than a round organiser. I have more and more custys going over to bacs but there will always be a % who want to pay cash.  I'm just curious as to how much the non cleaning hours varies between us. Oh and please use pre lock down analysis as I know collecting is a pure pleasure at the moment but isn't the norm. Cheers.

around 3 hours a week(admin,texting customers,printing invoices/slips,washing the van,etc)and 20-25 hours actually physically cleaning....its official...im semi retired..... ;D

no collecting at all for me anymore
price higher/work harder!

Smudger

  • Posts: 13438
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2020, 05:18:54 pm »
25 hrs a week on average - no longer on the tools apart from roof cleaning as and when I fancy it

Mrs smudged does about 20 hrs office "stuff"

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

dazmond

  • Posts: 23967
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2020, 05:20:41 pm »
Driving time eats into many rounds. Constant pruning and adjustment pays good dividends.

it certainly does malc.....refining and compacting jobs over many years results in a more efficient work day......nearly all my work(340+ jobs) are in a 3 mile affluent area....
price higher/work harder!

Dave Willis

Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2020, 05:31:19 pm »
Why on earth print slips and invoices?

I have a box of about 3000 printed slips with tick boxes on them. “Your windows were cleaned today.”
Please pay:
Online
Post

Any invoices are emailed.
I never print a worksheet, usually know my round. Van takes about five minutes to fill, might fire up CP once a week. So, probably waste about an hour and a half a week.

dazmond

  • Posts: 23967
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2020, 05:42:41 pm »
Why on earth print slips and invoices?

I have a box of about 3000 printed slips with tick boxes on them. “Your windows were cleaned today.”
Please pay:
Online
Post

Any invoices are emailed.
I never print a worksheet, usually know my round. Van takes about five minutes to fill, might fire up CP once a week. So, probably waste about an hour and a half a week.

i use the CP slips.............with my bank details on,date of last clean,how much they owe so i print them out every day,i do email some invoices for commercial jobs but some prefer paper ones....i do them when im purifying my water straight after i get home from work.....also the printed slips have the customers name on (usually) so i  get a reminder if i forget their name if they come out chatting! ;D

no printed worksheets as i download them to my phone on the CP app....
price higher/work harder!

Phil J

  • Posts: 638
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2020, 06:03:47 pm »
Probably a couple of hours a week, pricing jobs, printing & invoicing, washing vans, sex with the missus.

swanson

  • Posts: 602
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2020, 07:59:22 pm »
I don’t waste anytime
The wife does all the admin.

Shrek

  • Posts: 3931
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2020, 08:48:20 pm »
Zero , it’s all on my Mrs job sheet and pay her £500 a week to do it

dazmond

  • Posts: 23967
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2020, 09:54:25 pm »
Zero , it’s all on my Mrs job sheet and pay her £500 a week to do it

You could get a monkey to do it for  few bananas.......🤣
price higher/work harder!

Jonny 87

  • Posts: 3488
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2020, 12:41:37 pm »
Zero , it’s all on my Mrs job sheet and pay her £500 a week to do it

You could get a monkey to do it for  few bananas.......🤣

Bananas are hard to put in the expense column though.

 :D
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

NBwcs

  • Posts: 881
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2020, 11:14:38 am »
I bet if everyone recorded every minute spent during the week related to window cleaning that isnt cleaning ,you'd get a surprise. For a start,take a look at your profile on here and click stats. I just discovered ive spent 18 whole days of my life on this forum which equates to 30 mins a week i can add to  the total id already looked at. Forgive the intrusion Dazmond but your stats are eye opening... youve spent a total  of 288 days of your life on here  :o,   how many years you been cleaning Daz? If its 20 years then according to the stats you spend between 6 to 7 hrs a week on here  ;) . I guess some may argue this is more of social thing but none of us would be on here if we wern't windys.

dazmond

  • Posts: 23967
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2020, 01:49:47 pm »
I bet if everyone recorded every minute spent during the week related to window cleaning that isnt cleaning ,you'd get a surprise. For a start,take a look at your profile on here and click stats. I just discovered ive spent 18 whole days of my life on this forum which equates to 30 mins a week i can add to  the total id already looked at. Forgive the intrusion Dazmond but your stats are eye opening... youve spent a total  of 288 days of your life on here  :o,   how many years you been cleaning Daz? If its 20 years then according to the stats you spend between 6 to 7 hrs a week on here  ;) . I guess some may argue this is more of social thing but none of us would be on here if we wern't windys.

ive been cleaning windows for 27 years mate and ive been a member of this forum for 11 years.....i dont always log out when im not on this forum so that will skew the stats a little....but yes i have spent a lot of time on here but you cant call it work!...its been good for business......i have a window cleaning round these days that i couldnt of  dreamt possible when i joined back in 2009..... :)
price higher/work harder!

Ooooooog

  • Posts: 1083
Re: Total non cleaning hours per week.
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2020, 04:54:53 pm »
Why on earth print slips and invoices?

I have a box of about 3000 printed slips with tick boxes on them. “Your windows were cleaned today.”
Please pay:
Online
Post

Any invoices are emailed.
I never print a worksheet, usually know my round. Van takes about five minutes to fill, might fire up CP once a week. So, probably waste about an hour and a half a week.

What if you’re vat registered?