[nathankaye]

I have looked into this as I am unsure as to refit my lpg  for this winter , I think Nath has a good setup because he doesn’t use the full 500 and is insulated he has a good starting temp at switch on , this is where most others are falling down as they empty the tanks daily and will have a very low start temp.

This is my problem , I have and use close to 350 a day , fitting a bigger tank is not an option as I drive a noddy van !

Nathans  set up makes no sense, if you want an useful review on immersions then you need to ask somebody like Gold, with a 350ltr tank a 3kw on upgraded electrics should get you a decent daily temp.

If you have a 600ltr half full tank at say 60degrees and add 300ltrs of cold, it will be no different to heating the 300ltrs to 60 degrees on its own, unfortunately Nathans poor understanding of basic science lets him down.

I never claim to have any scientific excellence Sean, but I do know the results I have whilst you try and over think it without taking variables into account.
For instance, if my start temp after filling with cold water is 40 degrees or also the fact that my element is also still very hot etc, less time is needed to heat these aspects and start thermal circulation inside an insulated tank.
My set up may make no sense to some or most, but I work with very hot water (not warm) and I never have to worry about running out of water on a job, allowing me to take on as many new cleans or add on jobs as I wish.
I use a combination of solar and van battery to keep my leisure batteries topped up each and every night without the need to bench charge and I work pretty damn smart so I can get the most work done in the littlest of time so I can enjoy family time by having more days off than most. (or to spend it on here with some fun debates / tiffs 😂)
Oh yes, plus unlike most I use a large heavy brush with maximum jets which most consider pointless and back breaking but it works fantastically well for me 😂😂

[nathankaye]

Ordered the new element yesterday mid morning and it's arrived today. So over the wknd the old will slide out and the new 2kw slip in. Happy days
(showing the lid, so there's no accusing me in later days as to if I know what element I have 😂)

[Jonny 87]

Ordered the new element yesterday mid morning and it's arrived today. So over the wknd the old will slide out and the new 2kw slip in. Happy days
(showing the lid, so there's no accusing me in later days as to if I know what element I have 😂)

Your water is easily going to be warmed up to 150 degrees C now mate. It’s double the power you had before. 

[nathankaye]

I know right  . Any lippy customer and I'll just melt the concrete out their house 
But,
With great power comes great responsibility

[Dry Clean]

I have looked into this as I am unsure as to refit my lpg  for this winter , I think Nath has a good setup because he doesn’t use the full 500 and is insulated he has a good starting temp at switch on , this is where most others are falling down as they empty the tanks daily and will have a very low start temp.

This is my problem , I have and use close to 350 a day , fitting a bigger tank is not an option as I drive a noddy van !

Nathans  set up makes no sense, if you want an useful review on immersions then you need to ask somebody like Gold, with a 350ltr tank a 3kw on upgraded electrics should get you a decent daily temp.

If you have a 600ltr half full tank at say 60degrees and add 300ltrs of cold, it will be no different to heating the 300ltrs to 60 degrees on its own, unfortunately Nathans poor understanding of basic science lets him down.

I never claim to have any scientific excellence Sean, but I do know the results I have whilst you try and over think it without taking variables into account.
For instance, if my start temp after filling with cold water is 40 degrees or also the fact that my element is also still very hot etc, less time is needed to heat these aspects and start thermal circulation inside an insulated tank.
My set up may make no sense to some or most, but I work with very hot water (not warm) and I never have to worry about running out of water on a job, allowing me to take on as many new cleans or add on jobs as I wish.
I use a combination of solar and van battery to keep my leisure batteries topped up each and every night without the need to bench charge and I work pretty damn smart so I can get the most work done in the littlest of time so I can enjoy family time by having more days off than most. (or to spend it on here with some fun debates / tiffs 😂)
Oh yes, plus unlike most I use a large heavy brush with maximum jets which most consider pointless and back breaking but it works fantastically well for me 😂😂

[nathankaye]

Picture for screen snap 😂😂

[Dry Clean]

Picture for screen snap 😂😂

In your reality the laws of physics don't apply therefore its not my opinion that you should be worried about. lol

[Dry Clean]

I'm not going to put up the heating calculators again which these figures are worked out from,  but a 500ltr tank half full with water at around 50degrees, add 250ltrs of cold at around 10 degrees, would take the total temp down to around 27degrees, with a 1kw immersion it would take almost 36 hours to, bring it back to 70degrees, this would mean you would be lucky to get 2 workable days a week using if 70degree hot. ( these are all best case figures which don't take in heat loss and so forth ) .
Not joking Nathan but this makes your aquarium  heaters story look more plausible and it was total nonsense.

[Smudger]

What was the aquarium heater story ? - I’d love to know


Is it as good as  he can carry an 1000 litre ibc tank around balanced on his kn0b ?

Darran

[Dry Clean]

What was the aquarium heater story ? - I’d love to know

Darran

He was getting his tank water up to 60degrees using two 500w aquarium heaters, I pointed out that aquarium heaters  are thermostatically controlled to protect the fish and would never go that high no matter how many you used. lol

[Smudger]

I see,

Yes you are correct 34 degrees is the max they usually go regardless of wattage

Darran

[nathankaye]

Wow, we're digging into the past a little there aren't we. 
So I did a thread about "finally on hot water"
(took me a while to find it, but I'm sure the forum. Police aka Sean will find any others)
It ran for several pages and my first attempt got into the 20's.and another attempt got me 40.     No where did I mention getting sixty degrees with tank heaters. Shamefully now looking back, I did ask if 60 would be too hot to clean windows, whereas experience as taught me that 60 n over is best for hot water cleaning.

Yes, I did carry the ibc tank, it was hard to do but it is possible.  I also had to lift it in and out of my van by myself. Yes I did say I would do a vid to show but that can definitely wait as at the mo I'm not as fit as i was three years back.  Lack of gym going, and a very easy life of wfp accounts for much of that, plus an ill wife which takes my time n commitment as well as looking after my three little kids rather than proving my past to guys on this forum who try n twist what I say or question my results, because they can't do the same. Yet they like to post how much weight they can bench press and how many times they like to go to the gym and be all manly like, but when it comes to using the muscles to pick up heavy objects other than their light weight brush on a light weight carbon pole then in their mind it can't possibly be achieved in any way shape or form.

I have produced videos, shared my findings but I suppose I can lie and misconstrue the information on camera...... But for what gain, what can I possibly get from doing so?
I have been able to use a 1kw heater to get over 60 degrees of hot water, if your not able to, I'm sorry for your inabilty to do so for whatever excuse.
Over the wknd I'm changing the element to help with costs and it was cost effective to replace due to the thermostat breaking on the old one, so might as well.   (my day tarrif is 15p per Kwh whereas my night tarrif is 7.5 (or there abouts), so yes very cost effective for myself.

I've been as black n white as I can be and I don't hide behind the keyboard as it were, as some lime to do so.   I've done vids to help others at no gain to myself.   
If that's not good enough, then a quote from Billy the kid in young guns comes to mind
You can kiss my A$$

Now, Where's my whiskey gone 

[nathankaye]

[Dry Clean]

Yes I can dig up other posts, but your are right the best you came up with was into the 40s with your fish tank heaters which still isn't possible.
Three questions, besides licking your finger and sticking it up in the air what  sort of experiments did you conduct to come to the conclusion that 60degrees was the optimum / best water temp to clean windows ? lol,  not joking but do ever listen to yourself ? and who threatened to take you to court ?

[nathankaye]

Yes I can dig up other posts, but your are right the best you came up with was into the 40s with your fish tank heaters which still isn't possible.
Three questions, besides licking your finger and sticking it up in the air what  sort of experiments did you conduct to come to the conclusion that 60degrees was the optimum / best water temp to clean windows ? lol,  not joking but do ever listen to yourself ? and who threatened to take you to court ?

Again, misreading.
I didn't say anybody threatened to take me to court. (my post has been edited before this comment, if it can't be read) I was referencing how some have got the strop in the past and threatened court ie Marc!

As in my various posts I have tried many options to heat the water in my tank, which means I have worked with various degrees of warm/hot water to clean windows.   I have also posted various vids showing the temp ofthe water throughout the day and late night, along with the temp at the brush end.  I have also worked with cold water and various brushes and jet combinations to be more effective at my job. Therefore with this experience over a period of time and many years of cleaning glass, I have concluded that for my work, temperatures over 60 at the brush end is the sweet spot.

Haha since no one does listen to me mate, I have heard myself many a times 😂😂