[HampshireWindowCleaning]

I've never employed before but I'm getting to the point now where I'm seriously considering it, but I've no idea what employed window cleaners normally earn. I was thinking of £12 an hour for an 8-4 day, this will be just under £25k a year. Is that enough to get a decent and reliable worker? If they turnover £300 a day for 46 weeks that comes in at £69k turnover, minus the vat, wage and expenses am I going to make any profit?

[Smudger]

are they just window cleaning ?  or other services as well like gutter vac ing, conny cleans etc. ?

i would put the wage range between 9.50 and 12.50 - depending on experience and productivity but local wages from other sources will be a factor

Darran

[John Mart]

I reckon on that wage you  will be profitable. I pay £26k. I don't have set hours. I have an amount I expect done. Usually that's around 6 1/2 hours door to door.

[Stoots]

Depends doesn't it.

I wouldn't pay anyone anywhere near £12ph but then I can't turnover £300 a day 5, days a week.

I pay £8-£10 ph

[Oliver James]

When we employed they got a 30% cut of the takings OR minimum wage.

Our top window cleaner was coming home between 1.30 and 2 and his take home averaged £110, but most of them were taking home about £70 a day and were back in the yard for 2ish.

We no longer employ. Now we work in partnership with local window cleaners.

We do the sales and marketing, we schedule the work, notifiy the customers, and take care of quality control and customer service.

All payment is by Go Cardless

Our Partner fee is 25% of what they bill per day/week/month; so they get 75% of the takings.

[Lee Pryor]

You just described a franchise model with you acting as an agent for payments

[AuRavelling79]

I reckon on that wage you  will be profitable. I pay £26k. I don't have set hours. I have an amount I expect done. Usually that's around 6 1/2 hours door to door.

Do any of your guys get private use of a van?

[Smudger]

No, as in taking home

But like today one of the guys wanted to clean his horse box so came and got a van then brought it back

Darran

[jo5hm4n]

I pay £8 p/hr if working alongside in the van.  £10 p/hr if they go out alone.  I let them know what our minimum daily targets are.  If we go over our average minimum daily target then they get bonuses which are roughly 40% to the value of the work over the target.  We go over the targets almost 50% of the time.  So they get regular bonuses for working hard.

So far this method seems to work well for me.  I am still very new to employing and trying different things out.

[John Mart]

I reckon on that wage you  will be profitable. I pay £26k. I don't have set hours. I have an amount I expect done. Usually that's around 6 1/2 hours door to door.

Do any of your guys get private use of a van?

No. They take them home so it’s a benefit but they don’t use them once Home. I Got  trackers though to police it.

[Don Kee]

I pay £8 p/hr if working alongside in the van.  £10 p/hr if they go out alone.  I let them know what our minimum daily targets are.  If we go over our average minimum daily target then they get bonuses which are roughly 40% to the value of the work over the target.  We go over the targets almost 50% of the time.  So they get regular bonuses for working hard.

So far this method seems to work well for me.  I am still very new to employing and trying different things out.

Is that not a ballache for payroll at the end of each month?

[Don Kee]

I've never employed before but I'm getting to the point now where I'm seriously considering it, but I've no idea what employed window cleaners normally earn. I was thinking of £12 an hour for an 8-4 day, this will be just under £25k a year. Is that enough to get a decent and reliable worker? If they turnover £300 a day for 46 weeks that comes in at £69k turnover, minus the vat, wage and expenses am I going to make any profit?

Work out what you want them to clean in a day. Then what your expenses are out of it and how much you realisticically need/want to take out of it (profit)
What you’re left with is their pay per day.
(Thats just to get an around about figure mind, that way you can work out if you’re cleaning enough, charging enough in a day etc...to make it worth while)

Muliply it by 5, then by 52. Divide it by 12 and you have their wages per month.
You can work out their holidays, tax, NI, pensions etc... much easier by doing it that way.

[Smudger]

I pay £8 p/hr if working alongside in the van.  £10 p/hr if they go out alone.  I let them know what our minimum daily targets are.  If we go over our average minimum daily target then they get bonuses which are roughly 40% to the value of the work over the target.  We go over the targets almost 50% of the time.  So they get regular bonuses for working hard.

So far this method seems to work well for me.  I am still very new to employing and trying different things out.

Is that not a ballache for payroll at the end of each month?

Agree - we used to have bonus for this and that at the end of the day it takes ages to get the wages right now they get paid p/h as is the case with most areas of employment - we just keep an eye on the productivity

Darran

[jo5hm4n]

I pay £8 p/hr if working alongside in the van.  £10 p/hr if they go out alone.  I let them know what our minimum daily targets are.  If we go over our average minimum daily target then they get bonuses which are roughly 40% to the value of the work over the target.  We go over the targets almost 50% of the time.  So they get regular bonuses for working hard.

So far this method seems to work well for me.  I am still very new to employing and trying different things out.

Is that not a ballache for payroll at the end of each month?

Not really, why should it be?  Everything each day is documented and added to a spreadsheet which takes about an hour a month to fill in based on all the data i need to input.  It doesnt really take much time at all, but i can see how much work the employee has done total in the month compared to his hours and any bonuses added etc.  I have all the data infront of me.

[Dry Clean]

I reckon on that wage you  will be profitable. I pay £26k. I don't have set hours. I have an amount I expect done. Usually that's around 6 1/2 hours door to door.

26k a year in an area where its possible to knock out £80k as an employee or £100k working for yourself, are these employees neutered before or after you employ them ? lol

[John Mart]

I reckon on that wage you  will be profitable. I pay £26k. I don't have set hours. I have an amount I expect done. Usually that's around 6 1/2 hours door to door.

26k a year in an area where its possible to knock out £80k as an employee or £100k working for yourself, are these employees neutered before or after you employ them ? lol

They see other local window cleaners driving around in s****y vans and earning peanuts. That’s what they see for themselves if they went on their own.

[dazmond]

I reckon on that wage you  will be profitable. I pay £26k. I don't have set hours. I have an amount I expect done. Usually that's around 6 1/2 hours door to door.

26k a year in an area where its possible to knock out £80k as an employee or £100k working for yourself, are these employees neutered before or after you employ them ? lol

They see other local window cleaners driving around in s****y vans and earning peanuts. That’s what they see for themselves if they went on their own.

increasingly thats not the case though is it?more and more window cleaners are upping their game these days and getting decent vans and equipment.....

[Dave Willis]

Some even own them.