[Missing Link]

The frost protection stat on those Diesel Heaters does sound a good idea I must admit.
But in all honesty I've not put a heater in the back of my van once this Winter, and nothing has froze.
Just sayin....

You're lucky.  I've got a fan heater in the back of the van right now; hoses are frozen solid.

[dazmond]

The frost protection stat on those Diesel Heaters does sound a good idea I must admit.
But in all honesty I've not put a heater in the back of my van once this Winter, and nothing has froze.
Just sayin....

it must be milder where you are mate.we ve had plenty of below freezing temperatures overnight this winter with  more this week...

its just one less thing to think about....i just get up and go to work with less faffing about....

[dazmond]

The question I would ask is how many time would I need it, I mean really need it.

5k or whatever is a lot of money not to mention the running costs.

So far this winter I would say hot water might have helped me on 2-3 days first thing in the morning.

Ok this week looks like freak weather and it will no doubt help if the forecast is to be believed however how many times does that occur really.

An immersion seems a more sensible option to be used on half a dozen occasions when needed.

If you have a great round, earn plenty of dosh and low overheads and you want one why not, I would love one but it's only a want and not a need so it's a luxury item.

you ve hit the nail on the head adam...its a luxury item/tool but it makes the working day easier whether its the middle of winter or the middle of summer......

[Dry Clean]

The question I would ask is how many time would I need it, I mean really need it.

5k or whatever is a lot of money not to mention the running costs.

So far this winter I would say hot water might have helped me on 2-3 days first thing in the morning.

Ok this week looks like freak weather and it will no doubt help if the forecast is to be believed however how many times does that occur really.

An immersion seems a more sensible option to be used on half a dozen occasions when needed.

If you have a great round, earn plenty of dosh and low overheads and you want one why not, I would love one but it's only a want and not a need so it's a luxury item.

you ve hit the nail on the head adam...its a luxury item/tool but it makes the working day easier whether its the middle of winter or the middle of summer......

According to you it doesn't,

[andyM]

The frost protection stat on those Diesel Heaters does sound a good idea I must admit.
But in all honesty I've not put a heater in the back of my van once this Winter, and nothing has froze.
Just sayin....

it must be milder where you are mate.we ve had plenty of below freezing temperatures overnight this winter with  more this week...

its just one less thing to think about....i just get up and go to work with less faffing about....

Been ice on the windscreen most mornings, sometimes on the inside too!
Anything lower than about -3 and yes there's a danger of the equipment in the van freezing up.
Most other Winters I've been through I've needed to put an electric heater in the van at some point.
This Winter not so.   
This week might turn out to be the exception though.

[NWH]

It’s a luxury item I agree but I also think it’s needed to do the job to a better standard,it means you can work in all weather no more problems with freezing pipes or tubes. Where I work it makes no difference if the hose is clear and flowing if I was to use cold in my working  areas the jets freeze and stop you working,I had it in years gone by the hose reels on neater easier to handle the list goes on. The outlay is made back in no time to what it’ll earn you.

[NWH]

If all glass was hydrophilic cold would be more of an attraction I’d switch it off unless it was bitterly cold but glass just isn’t,hydrophobic glass is when you see the better results over cold water by far.

[Dry Clean]

If all glass was hydrophilic cold would be more of an attraction I’d switch it off unless it was bitterly cold but glass just isn’t,hydrophobic glass is when you see the better results over cold water by far.

Try these.

[trippyboy]

I run my gas heater at 62 degrees all day. (About 50 degrees at brush end)and costs me 2 quid a day.
I've had it for about 15 or 16 months now and its still going strong.
At only about £100 to replace its got to be worth it.
I did find my insurance went up a bit with carrying lpg but again the hot is worth every penny.
It shifts dirt quicker , gives a deeper clean and makes the hose very easy to wind in, again saving you time.
Mine is flued and less than a foot away from the rear doors of the van which stay open on cleans.
I have a fire extinguisher in the back and a carbon monoxide detector in my cab, the gas bottle is secured and the set up is really no different to a caravan or motor home.
I use hot all year round and would never go back to cold again.

[Jonny 87]

I run my gas heater at 62 degrees all day. (About 50 degrees at brush end)and costs me 2 quid a day.
I've had it for about 15 or 16 months now and its still going strong.
At only about £100 to replace its got to be worth it.
I did find my insurance went up a bit with carrying lpg but again the hot is worth every penny.
It shifts dirt quicker , gives a deeper clean and makes the hose very easy to wind in, again saving you time.
Mine is flued and less than a foot away from the rear doors of the van which stay open on cleans.
I have a fire extinguisher in the back and a carbon monoxide detector in my cab, the gas bottle is secured and the set up is really no different to a caravan or motor home.
I use hot all year round and would never go back to cold again.

Just bare in mind that if it catches fire your insurance is void!
Sounds like your doing everything you can to keep safe, but it’s still a risk.

You will never get your insurance to give you in writing that you can use that shower heater unattended. That’s another reason why I ditched it.

You’ll be insured to carry a gas bottle, but not operating the heater while you are away from the vehicle.

[Jonny 87]

If all glass was hydrophilic cold would be more of an attraction I’d switch it off unless it was bitterly cold but glass just isn’t,hydrophobic glass is when you see the better results over cold water by far.

Try these.

There is science behind hot water rinsing better on glass. Sounds weird, but I know In the past using hot water, the viscosity is very different.

[KS Cleaning]

i wouldnt bother unless your going to be getting it installed into a new van (that your planning in keeping for at least 5 years or so)as its expensive for the heater/charging units/batteries/ fitting and running costs(around £100 a month on diesel)

however i love mine now...no worries about hoses/pumps freezing on cold nights as the frost stat takes care of that and obviously working with hot water is better than cold water window cleaning.easier scrubbing and rinsing,supple warm hoses and the windows dry quicker...

having used DIY  L5 and L10 gas shower heaters before i reckon a professionally installed diesel heater is much better,more consistent heat and a lot safer....it looks cool too if you get the retro fit from grippa...

id go for the 9kw heater mate.dont forget in winter on very cold days the water at brush head is only around 25-30c with lots of hose out on freezing ground(and thats with the 9kw heater on full whack).which is fine...

obviously when it warms up that heat rises dramatically to 45-60c which is super duper for the spring/summer months for all that bird muck,slug trails,pollen spots,bug poo,etc,etc that we all get on the glass and add on jobs are easier to clean....

Doesn't seem that long ago that you ripped the shower unit and gas bottle out your van then said that hot water doesn't clean any better than cold anyway

[The Jester of Wibbly]

i wouldnt bother unless your going to be getting it installed into a new van (that your planning in keeping for at least 5 years or so)as its expensive for the heater/charging units/batteries/ fitting and running costs(around £100 a month on diesel)

however i love mine now...no worries about hoses/pumps freezing on cold nights as the frost stat takes care of that and obviously working with hot water is better than cold water window cleaning.easier scrubbing and rinsing,supple warm hoses and the windows dry quicker...

having used DIY  L5 and L10 gas shower heaters before i reckon a professionally installed diesel heater is much better,more consistent heat and a lot safer....it looks cool too if you get the retro fit from grippa...

id go for the 9kw heater mate.dont forget in winter on very cold days the water at brush head is only around 25-30c with lots of hose out on freezing ground(and thats with the 9kw heater on full whack).which is fine...

obviously when it warms up that heat rises dramatically to 45-60c which is super duper for the spring/summer months for all that bird muck,slug trails,pollen spots,bug poo,etc,etc that we all get on the glass and add on jobs are easier to clean....

Doesn't seem that long ago that you ripped the shower unit and gas bottle out your van then said that hot water doesn't clean any better than cold anyway

That's because he set fire to himself 

[DeLuce]

Well, I know it's not a necessity for cleaning  windows having hot water, but I prefer using warm / hot.
Like I said, I've got an immersion at the moment, had it 7yrs I reckon, and I have it on winter and summer coz I prefer the way it cleans. In fact, when I first fitted it, I only put it on in the cold weather to keep my hoses supple, but then I preferred cleaning with warmer water. It certainly takes off the bird poop and fly dots more quickly. Then I started upping the temp coz I thought it was better again.
So for me, I think I'd like the diesel heater for a bit more consistency with the temp.
I'm also getting older and would like to make work a little easier on the body.
Thanks for the inputs.
Nic.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

Well, I know it's not a necessity for cleaning  windows having hot water, but I prefer using warm / hot.
Like I said, I've got an immersion at the moment, had it 7yrs I reckon, and I have it on winter and summer coz I prefer the way it cleans. In fact, when I first fitted it, I only put it on in the cold weather to keep my hoses supple, but then I preferred cleaning with warmer water. It certainly takes off the bird poop and fly dots more quickly. Then I started upping the temp coz I thought it was better again.
So for me, I think I'd like the diesel heater for a bit more consistency with the temp.
I'm also getting older and would like to make work a little easier on the body.
Thanks for the inputs.
Nic.

Say no more. Go for it buddy.  Give Oliver a call.

[DeLuce]

I might just do that Wibblely Boy