[trafficjamz]

I have been using an SLX 22 with a Supreme hybrid and all weather pole hose for well over a year.
Then this past week I've switched to an Xtreme 22 with an ultimate brush and reinforced pole hose.
To be honest, I was expecting a big difference in weight and thought those long over-the-conservatory stretches would be far easier on the back.   But if it was a blind test, I wouldn't be able to tell them apart. So I'm just feeling a bit miffed that I've spent double the money for not much gain, and ultimately a less durable pole.

Then I started to wonder if the reinforced pole hose is adding a lot of weight to an extended pole?!
I might have to switch hose for a spell to see if that makes a difference.

What are your findings?

[Smudger]

If gardiners don't have the weight on the web site then weigh the two lengths of hose and see the difference, I don't find any of the gardiners hose much good, I'd guess the reinforced stuff would be a lot heavier, but why you would use it is beyond me, good as an alternative hose for your reel.

Darran

[M & C Window Cleaning]

I wouldn't be surprised if the reinforced pole hose weren't double the weight of the standard pole hose. It seems odd to fit a pole accredited for it's light weight with a heavier hose. Kinda defeats the purpose, to me at least. I use PU hose. Takes getting used to, but worth it.

[Clever Forum Name]

36% heavier

[trafficjamz]

I've got 100m of the stuff on the reel,  then it goes straight up the pole into a univalve.
Bad idea by the sounds of it.
I'm liking the univalve idea.  So I'm going to find some light pole hose and add on to the end with an appropriate straight through connector.

[ChumBucket]

The weight of this hose is the sole reason I haven't used it. It was the first thing that I noticed when it came out and thought that it may cause the issue you are experiencing.

[trafficjamz]

Update :
I switched back to my old all season hose in the xtreme today and what a difference!
This is more like it.
That reinforced stuff won't be used for it's intended purpose in my setup. Great on the reel though.

So is there any pole hose out there that's even lighter than the gardiners all season pole hose?  Let's see how light this thing can go 

[M & C Window Cleaning]

I think PU hose is supposed to be 30% lighter than PVC hose of the same diameter though I haven't weighed it to see if it's true.  It has a thinner wall as it has a larger ID.  However, it feels different to PVC hose and not everyone finds it easy to manage.  I've found that the key is to put it in very hot water preferably boil it if you can. Then while its still hot, lay it out straight, weight it down at each end and let it go cold before recoiling it. This makes it much more manageable. It's now my favorite.
Gardiner sells it in orange, Ex-ceed sells it red and blue.

[Clever Forum Name]

on a 22ft pole its about 120-150 grams heavier when extended 22ft

[trafficjamz]

Thanks for the info and the helpful tip M&C, I think I'll try some out. I'm sure it will help that I use the univalve too as I won't have a curly mess at my feet.

I also have the Xtreme 35 extension. Yes I know it's meant for the 25, but it still works fine to give me an extra 10ft (32)
And it only gets used on 1 day of the round.

[dazmond]

i use the exceed blue PU hose on my main day to day pole.good stuff IMO.i also have loads of the orange PU hose also from exceed innovations/aqua-daptor and use this on my high level pole.light as a feather,very durable and excellent with hot water.

[trafficjamz]

Are there PU hoses more suitable for cold water?

[dazmond]

Are there PU hoses more suitable for cold water?

PU hose is ok with both hot and cold water as i dont use hot water all the time.i mainly use hot for add ons,dirty first cleans and winter window cleaning.

[trafficjamz]

I see, thanks.
So do I toss a coin between orange gardiner and blue exceed?   Anybody had experience with both to compare?

[M & C Window Cleaning]

Thanks for the info and the helpful tip M&C, I think I'll try some out. I'm sure it will help that I use the univalve too as I won't have a curly mess at my feet.

The Univalve is brilliant especially coupled with a tubeless kit. I've worked for eight years with a trigger valve strapped to the pole. When I took it all off and got rid of all that excess hose at my feet I felt like a dog let off it's lead on my first day out with it.

[trafficjamz]

I know what you mean, for 5 years I've been using a valve strapped to the pole. It's great running around without that loop.
The only thing I miss is the ability to control the flow.

I don't need the tubeless kit as I leave my pole connected at all times.