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dazmond

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2015, 08:43:32 am »
ive had more accidents in 5 years wfp than 17 years on the ladders!ive fell off ladders twice from 1st floor height(ladders slipped and landed on my heels both times)luckily i was ok apart from a swollen ankle and a bit of back pain.

wfp ive fell over a wall/garden furniture(while looking up poling)5 TIMES!one of the falls resulted in painful bruised ribs! ::)roll ;D
price higher/work harder!

SeanK

Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2015, 09:32:25 am »
Head out with a round of under priced work which then means you having to work fast to make a living add a ladder and there's going to be an accident/fall.
I got asked to quote a property a while back the guy who was cleaning it had a bad fall and had quit, he was charging £5 for
a property that would take me 45mins to clean with the pole.
He ran about with the ladders walked across porches ledges or do anything that would make the job quicker it surprises me he
lasted so long.


Smurf

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2015, 10:06:52 am »
ive had more accidents in 5 years wfp than 17 years on the ladders!ive fell off ladders twice from 1st floor height(ladders slipped and landed on my heels both times)luckily i was ok apart from a swollen ankle and a bit of back pain.

wfp ive fell over a wall/garden furniture(while looking up poling)5 TIMES!one of the falls resulted in painful bruised ribs! ::)roll ;D

Best to look down & around you before moving your feet you clumsy oaf  ;D
Also best to pay attention to the base of the pole too so you don't smack any cars etc as is easy to do too... Oops!   ::)roll

slap bash

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2015, 10:34:51 am »
Do you know what, some people are just not going to change even when they are risking their own life, so I am going to tell you where I am . . . . .I am out !    You crack on fella  :-X

I'm not against wfp in some situations it's good but if I take precautions to be as safe as anyone else a ladder is fine, alot of the time quicker on normal residential houses as well and the main reason a hell of a lot cheaper, as I said learning the skill with a trad pole is also alot more satisfying I think

If you have all the answers don`t ask for advice on how to kill yourself.

mark2788

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2015, 11:29:19 am »
Do you know what, some people are just not going to change even when they are risking their own life, so I am going to tell you where I am . . . . .I am out !    You crack on fella  :-X

I'm not against wfp in some situations it's good but if I take precautions to be as safe as anyone else a ladder is fine, alot of the time quicker on normal residential houses as well and the main reason a hell of a lot cheaper, as I said learning the skill with a trad pole is also alot more satisfying I think

If you have all the answers don`t ask for advice on how to kill yourself.

What does that mean? As the person above mentioned he's had more accidents with wfp than ladders, I'm not trying say ladders are safe but people will have accidents with anything whether it's ladders, wfp or more likely driving to the job, that was what I was saying when I first posted a reply

Smurf

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2015, 11:38:06 am »
It's logical to assume you are at higher risk of serious injury or even death using ladders doing hundreds of ladder sets a day than someone using a wfp surely?

You don't hear of many wfp guy's getting killed using a wfp compared to a trad guy's using ladders

RAMS springs to mind but just watch out for high voltage overhead cables or you could get fryed as a few yanks have already found out waving a long pole about.  ::)roll

Smurf

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2015, 12:10:10 pm »
Regarding the risk of electrocution I'm sure a few over here have had a close call too as I'm aware of 3 got a belt from overhead cables waving poles about. I sure it was one of Rhinoman workers doing solar panel cleaning and another 2 that Alex Gardiner has mentioned.

mark2788

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2015, 12:54:06 pm »
O yh I know there's more danger in ladders, I never said that it was safer than wfp just a few people either didn't read it or just love to mention about ladders cause death lol

Smurf

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2015, 01:26:24 pm »
 I've found the falling bit is easy but the sudden stop at the end is a bummer as hurts like hell  ;D

Now if I need to use ladders for whatever reason when it's safe to do so I use this setup.  Looks like overkill I know but as I work on my own I  know the ladder will not  go anywhere if set properly even on slippery surfaces. I just have to make sure I don't fall off the dam thing  ;D





M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2015, 02:30:35 pm »
Quote
wfp ive fell over a wall/garden furniture(while looking up poling)5 TIMES!one of the falls resulted in painful bruised ribs! ::)roll ;D

Know what you mean. I wouldn't say I've had more accidents with wfp than using a ladder but I've learned to take a mental snapshot of the ground around me before I start as it is very easy to trip over or step on something or even go down a step you didn't notice was there whilst you are looking up. Even falling onto something hard or sharp from a standing position can cause a considerable injury.

I'd still rather trip over than fall off a set of ladders though. As Smurf says, 'the falling's easy, it's the landing that stings a bit.'
I love the way you put that Smurf. Made me laugh.   ;D

Smurf

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2015, 02:37:17 pm »
Thanks  ;D

mark2788

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2015, 03:25:39 pm »
Don't think it's overkill, that's the precautions I meant when using a ladder, I see others on a ladder and I almost can't watch it looks so dangerous, there's a good video on YouTube crazy world of window cleaning I think? Now those guys are scary!

Johnny B

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2015, 05:51:08 pm »
Ladders are safe enough if they are in good condition and used responsibly.

John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

sunshine windows

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2015, 06:32:31 pm »
Sorry, could get myself lol  ;D

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Johnny B

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2015, 07:05:12 pm »
Brilliant!  ;D ;D ;D

John.
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

Smurf

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2015, 01:14:11 pm »
Does make you feel a right chimp when you fall off one for sure  ;D

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2015, 01:37:46 pm »
I probably looked like a chimp on one occasion as the ladders I was climbing flipped over when I was half way up and left me swinging by one hand for a second or so before I dropped to the floor. I only dropped about two or three feet but hit the floor with straight legs and boy did it send a shock through me.

Smurf

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2015, 02:12:09 pm »
I probably looked like a chimp on one occasion as the ladders I was climbing flipped over when I was half way up and left me swinging by one hand for a second or so before I dropped to the floor. I only dropped about two or three feet but hit the floor with straight legs and boy did it send a shock through me.
Sounds rather painful but funny at the same time  ;D

Smurf

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Re: hard to reach windows, any tips? (traditional)
« Reply #58 on: August 14, 2015, 02:17:42 pm »
This cctv footage always cracks me up.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=13e_1191083013
Dumb & Dumber springs to mind  ;D