[V_Purcell]

vpurcell. can you tell me how my site ranks as just paid for full seo package ....

www.bcs-cleaning-services.com

What keywords are you targeting? As it stands at the moment, you have been indexed by google and have only one back link from a well know site, but you have no pagerank. What seo package did you buy?

[ben smith1234]

Mainly carpet and upholstery cleaning as this bring in the most income.
Something like carpet cleaning stroud( where we are based)
Carpet cleaning Gloucester or Gloucestershire

[ben smith1234]

According to web designers it was a full seo package

[V_Purcell]

Did they tell you what they were going to do?

[Richard Cole]

How much was the SEO package Ben and who with?

[ben smith1234]

Did they tell you what they were going to do?

No they said full seo package
Shown me there site which was number 1 on google

[ben smith1234]

How much was the SEO package Ben and who with?

£600 and techshopboys.co.uk

[V_Purcell]

Check their url techshopboys.co.uk
It has no website showing up.

[ben smith1234]

Check their url techshopboys.co.uk
It has no website showing up.

www.thetechshopboys.co.uk

[Richard Cole]

I know this is an old thread but having read it, well most of it , i am still trying to work out if it is going to be worthwhile building a new site or sites aimed at towns / cities near to me and seo them to get on page 1 of Google.  The problem i find is that you have the PPC at the top and then the 7 pack (Google Places / maps) and then the organic listings or though you occasionally get one organic above Places.  I am usually 1st or 3rd for places in my nearest town but obviously can not get another site listed on Places in further away towns or cities so that leaves me PPC or SEO.  I would rather go down the SEO route but is it worth it when you have usually 3 ppc ad's and then up to 7 Google Places and then the organic links, so do any of you get a lot of work of organic links rather than places?

[derek west]

i would totally disregard anything in this thread as most of it will be out of date. area specific URL's are (i believe) coming to an end. Concentrate on your business name and build in natural seo to your site with quality (not quantity) links and citations. social signals are a must as is fresh relative content.
Thats all i got. 

[Richard Cole]

Yeah I know a lot has changed Derek but my main question is how can organic listings compete with Places and PPC as most of the organic listings are further down the page, is it worth trying to seo your site if it is going to be below these two groups.

[derek west]

the more spaces you allocate for your business the more you'll get clicked and the less chance your cpmpetitors have of getting clicked, you should be targeting all 3, 1 off the top 3 PPC, places and organic and if you can squeeze in some blog posts as well, even better.

But then i would say that as i dont really do any other marketing other than database.

[Mike Halliday]

With SEO & Google constanly changing is it worth paying a seo company , we see seo companies constantly spamming CIU.

if people are paying companies to do this would they not be better just using pay per click?

[garry22]

With SEO & Google constanly changing is it worth paying a seo company , we see seo companies constantly spamming CIU.

if people are paying companies to do this would they not be better just using pay per click?

Spamming forums is not SEO / internet marketing.

It's just some chancers making a quick buck out of people who don't know any better.

[Richard Cole]

Agreed Gary i'm just trying to work out if it is worthwhile trying to target some near by towns with a new sites when i won't be able to get on Google Places as i will be too far away but will it be worth my while getting on front page of google in the natural listings when places and PPC are above, i just can't see much traffic filtering down that far.  I guess i won't know until i try but if anyone has any feedback........

[neil 47]

if you search google for say "carpet cleaning in chester" when you get to organic listing check to see the highlighted words in your url like carpet cleaning   chester  etc and if they are in your url they will be highlighted.

to me this shows that the words in your url are totally relevant to google still.

but nothing beats a website that has good content and traffic ,

Time and money are the main reason cc websites dont rank . if you have both your on to a winner.

[garry22]

Richard,

Out of the two (not ideal) options, I'd go for adding pages to your existing site. Here's why.

1/ Ranking a new site is a pain and you will have to write fresh content for each one. If there is little or no competition, an exact match domain will still do it (as long as you are not going to do much link building later).

2/ Your existing site has some history (age / authority) so an additional page will have more "worth" than a brand new domain (assuming your existing domain is "clean" - no penalty).

Make sure it's a "quality" page (plenty of unique content) not just a couple of paragraphs.

Whether that alone is enough to get you above the places results is doubtful (depends on competition in the other towns).

[Richard Cole]

Cheers Garry, i am actually building a new website on wordpress to encompass hardfloor cleaning and it is a different site and address to my main carpet cleaning site, finally got Google verify code today, so this is a new site anyway and is ranking on page on for some key phrases but it is now a question of building new pages, posts like you say to optimize it for different areas, not sure whether i will try to keep it all on one site or go for some smaller sites with key word rich domains to target specific area's.

[ShaunL]

Hi Richard,
I've recently switched over to wordpress from Joomla. I recommend downloading the Yoast SEO plugin for wordpress. This has helped dramatically with my SEO rankings and is very simply to use.