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JetVac Cleaning

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Town centre cleaning
« on: November 17, 2014, 02:21:34 pm »
I am in the process of quoting for a town centre clean and wanted some advise on getting the costs right. I have been there for 4 hrs today measuring to get these sizes right. 8,968sqm of block paving absolutely covered in gum and 6,847 sqm of 5 different types of granit stone setts which the gum has managed to mostly avoid but there is staining here and there. I'm thinking of using liquid poultice for all the granite to give the best results. They require a non destructive method on the granite hence the reason for using liquid poultice. Any advise would be much appreciated.

Matt Gibson

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Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2014, 08:53:54 pm »
What kind of staining is on the granite?

Granite is one of the hardest/dense stones around. Most cleaning chems will be suitable and wont damage it. Just need to know what the stains are to know what chems to use.

chris scott

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Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 07:29:39 am »
Let somebody who knows what they are doing have a look at it... it will save you a load of grief and you will earn more.
What area are you in?
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JetVac Cleaning

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Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2014, 08:14:42 am »
The granite just has general food and drink stains but also some rust where some metal bins are. I have made them aware that the rust is probably permanent ect. I won't be subbing this job out chris Scott and am looking forward to the challenges it will bring. This job will bring in more areas within the town if successful.

Matt Gibson

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Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 01:23:51 pm »
The sgains should come out no woŕries. Just do a test. Shouldnt need poultices.

chris scott

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Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2014, 02:57:16 pm »
I did not say sub it out. I said let somebody who knows what they are doing have a look at it.
There will be no need for poultices (maybe except for the rust) so there is a saving (a large one!! in terms of materials and labour).
Non destructive method for granite ? I don't think you have anything to worry about there  ;D.
General food and drink stains....Hot oil is by it's nature one of the most searching liquids. The granite will be ok ..what about the block paving?
Chewing gum is another matter.
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Matt Gibson

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Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2014, 04:25:41 pm »
If it was me, I would work out roughly how much you can get done in a night shift (you should know how much you can clean normally and then add on some hours for the gum depending on your machine set up)
Work out diesel, for the hot box and machine, diesel for the van, wages etc.. I'm sure you know all this.

Charge a day rate. You might not get as much done in the first couple of nights, but you will soon get faster, and build up a technique that suits the job.

No way would i be charging per m2 for this type of work. I don't even charge per m2 for driveways.


Speak to Lee at Blastaway, he is quite good at the old town centres  ;D


Blast Away

Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2014, 04:56:18 pm »
We just got invited to 10 towns in a county down south, 50,000m2 gum removal. Too far for us to travel and carry out as there would be at least 4 shifts per week for a few months.
I've ended up giving the lead to another company who can handle it a doddle with their £60k Falch machines. If you haven't got one of them you'll be there 5 times as long on a job this size.

chris scott

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Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2014, 05:08:56 pm »
We just got invited to 10 towns in a county down south, 50,000m2 gum removal. Too far for us to travel and carry out as there would be at least 4 shifts per week for a few months.
I've ended up giving the lead to another company who can handle it a doddle with their £60k Falch machines. If you haven't got one of them you'll be there 5 times as long on a job this size.
I bought a pressure washer from Manchester....
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Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2014, 05:45:59 pm »
We just got invited to 10 towns in a county down south, 50,000m2 gum removal. Too far for us to travel and carry out as there would be at least 4 shifts per week for a few months.
I've ended up giving the lead to another company who can handle it a doddle with their £60k Falch machines. If you haven't got one of them you'll be there 5 times as long on a job this size.
its not 50,000  ;D

Blast Away

Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2014, 06:18:50 pm »
We just got invited to 10 towns in a county down south, 50,000m2 gum removal. Too far for us to travel and carry out as there would be at least 4 shifts per week for a few months.
I've ended up giving the lead to another company who can handle it a doddle with their £60k Falch machines. If you haven't got one of them you'll be there 5 times as long on a job this size.
I bought a pressure washer from Manchester....

Dunno why he came up with that excuse that he gave you. He works for me, it was his own machine for when I have him going out doing clean ads. He owes me money so called it straight.  ;) Was funny though when he was telling me! hahaha



We just got invited to 10 towns in a county down south, 50,000m2 gum removal. Too far for us to travel and carry out as there would be at least 4 shifts per week for a few months.
I've ended up giving the lead to another company who can handle it a doddle with their £60k Falch machines. If you haven't got one of them you'll be there 5 times as long on a job this size.
its not 50,000  ;D

Ok, 49,998m2 then.  ;)

Blast Away

Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2014, 06:21:42 pm »
Mike, they've put their price in, have you?  ;)

The 15,000 town one looks tasty!  ;D

Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2014, 06:31:33 pm »
Mike, they've put their price in, have you?  ;)

The 15,000 town one looks tasty!  ;D
  yep... Council have messed up with the figures big time ... as per norm

you will need to keep an eye on the vans in that area  ;D

JetVac Cleaning

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Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2014, 09:36:04 pm »
[the council have asked for a psm price and a discounted price for the whole area because depending on price they might only have the worst parts done. I think the reason for the gentle approach on the granite is because vehicles have already damaged parts of it and they don't want it made worse by high pressure cleaning hence the reason for the poultice approach

Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2014, 06:10:30 pm »
We just got invited to 10 towns in a county down south, 50,000m2 gum removal. Too far for us to travel and carry out as there would be at least 4 shifts per week for a few months.
I've ended up giving the lead to another company who can handle it a doddle with their £60k Falch machines. If you haven't got one of them you'll be there 5 times as long on a job this size.
I bought a pressure washer from Manchester....

Dunno why he came up with that excuse that he gave you. He works for me, it was his own machine for when I have him going out doing clean ads. He owes me money so called it straight.  ;) Was funny though when he was telling me! hahaha



We just got invited to 10 towns in a county down south, 50,000m2 gum removal. Too far for us to travel and carry out as there would be at least 4 shifts per week for a few months.
I've ended up giving the lead to another company who can handle it a doddle with their £60k Falch machines. If you haven't got one of them you'll be there 5 times as long on a job this size.
its not 50,000  ;D

Ok, 49,998m2 then.  ;)

£35k eh? That includes blocks.. Seems cheap mate

Blast Away

Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2014, 10:58:34 pm »
How do you know it's that mate? Take it you've seen them working?
It's supposed to be 25,000m2 done now then the other half next year. Think they've just done 25 in 3 weeks.

Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2014, 11:13:43 pm »
 ;)  ;D nope have not seen anything

Re: Town centre cleaning
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2014, 04:45:14 pm »
We just got invited to 10 towns in a county down south, 50,000m2 gum removal. Too far for us to travel and carry out as there would be at least 4 shifts per week for a few months.
I've ended up giving the lead to another company who can handle it a doddle with their £60k Falch machines. If you haven't got one of them you'll be there 5 times as long on a job this size.
Have they started the 15,000m town ;)...  If they have, not impressed with their £60K machines..