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Carpet Dawg

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Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« on: September 21, 2014, 02:51:24 pm »
For commercial carpet cleaning. Both maintenance and (one off/first cleans) deep cleans. Which would you buy and why?

Which is better on hard floors?

I could just use a rotery but these machines save a lot of time.

stuart_clark

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2014, 11:51:15 pm »
I do a lot of comercial maintenance and a cr48  is on my new toy list, personaly an orbot wouldnt benefit me, I have a chemstractor a rotabrite machine and four other rotarys, I've never liked orbitals


stuart

Carpet Dawg

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2014, 12:01:41 am »
Stuart
Can the cimex deal with really manky commercials? Not greasy restaurant, But office carpet that hasn't been cleaned in a long time? (or ever!) for example, or is encap mainly used for maintenance?

I'm a bit late to catch on with encap.

stuart_clark

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2014, 07:40:09 am »
Dawg

I think it can, I went out on a few comercial cleans with a mate of mine that used to run a chemspec franchise, he had one and used it for quite a few bad jobs, I think its all down to the chemical you are using as well, not just the machine itself

Paul Moss

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2014, 08:19:57 am »
Cimex is best for heavy duty cleaning

Paul Moss

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2014, 08:25:54 am »
This was the test area I did to get job. It was the worst area, should have took a before pic really. Tile about 12 years old full of oil, dirt,spills. They has two other companies in who walked from it. The cimex did this test area in 15 mins and they where blown away. Got job on spot.

stuart_clark

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2014, 08:32:05 am »
Paul

does yours have the big boy wheels on it ?

Paul Moss

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2014, 03:59:34 pm »
No, just a big boy driving it  :D

Darran Pryce

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2014, 04:32:22 pm »
No, just a big boy driving it  :D

Lol...

Since we purchased our Cimex machine the work it has done, and on heavy traffic areas.  I have the big boy wheels on it, and a bigger boy driving it :-)

David Ware

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2014, 05:30:15 pm »
It would be great to see the two machines do a side by side comparison. I only have the Sprayborg  to comment on so have little to compare if just carpets. The question also said hard floors. The weight system and diamond pads give a good edge to the Sprayborg.
David

Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2014, 05:53:28 pm »
It would be great to see the two machines do a side by side comparison. I only have the Sprayborg  to comment on so have little to compare if just carpets. The question also said hard floors. The weight system and diamond pads give a good edge to the Sprayborg.
David

I think Jamie demo'd both of them at TACCA. You missed a trick there David.

Rog
Diplomacy: the art of letting other people have your way

gwrightson

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2014, 06:01:33 pm »
David ,

I don't think the weight between the two is much different, and weights can be added to the cimex. and with vast array of diamond pads I,m pretty sure the cimex would hold its own :-\

I have not used my cimex as yet for hard floors but I am considering giving it a go if I cannot source the right machine for hard floors.

Having said all of that I am bias, having had a r48 for the last 7 years , encapped 10000s of sq metres, reliable ,robust and never let me down apart from the rare blockage.  

I shall be using it on 8,000 sq metres in the near future (hope fully if  my quote is accepted) and I,m confident it wont let me down.
Geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

tim handley

Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2014, 07:08:08 pm »
i like the look of the cimex and hope to make it my next purchase..............   i understand they are rar as rocking horse poop second hand.....

gwrightson

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2014, 07:44:30 pm »


Don't come up often 2nd hand, I bought an ex demo from Truvox in Southampton, I think they are in Southampton, might be worth giving them a call, wasn't cheap mind !!  or perhaps one of the other suppliers on here .

geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2014, 08:35:34 pm »
It's the kind of machine that lasts for ever it would let Jamie Pearson pimp it and put a sprayer on it, perhaps bigger wheels. Jamie may be able to add to this with all of the modifications available.

Shaun

Carpet Dawg

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2014, 07:35:07 pm »
Looks like the Cimex it is then!

stuart_clark

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2014, 10:10:22 pm »
Nearly half the price of an orbot as well

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Cimex or Orbot Sprayborg
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2014, 10:18:19 am »
Cimex will get you fastest ROI and can handle heavy to light soiling.

Orbot can do carpet maintenance quicker and is amazingly good for keeping carpets clean.

I am not convinced on the Orbots other uses having tested it extensively both onsite and at the Nu-Life Training room on 3 separate occasions. Trust me, we wanted it to work as it is effortless in use on hard floors but results aren't there hence the multiple attempts. The Stoneflash pads work well on a rotary just doesnt work on the Orbot to same standard. We have put this down to the decreased rpm on the 240 volt models.

Neither are as good on hard floors as a decent dedicated rotary machine.

The Cimex is okay on hard floors but we find that the HD & DF versions are better as they are dedicated hard surface machines with bigger motors and weight capability.