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ian harper

Real Proof
« on: July 27, 2014, 09:27:24 am »
Guys

Whats your views. are testimonials of a course proof that the contents has value in the real world? and when someone makes a statement about earning without showing proof is that statement honest?


http://stonecare.tv/kick-arse-marketing-days/

I have published real ROI numbers before

http://www.cleanonomics.cleaning-carpet.co.uk/cost-of-a-customer/

http://www.cleanonomics.cleaning-carpet.co.uk/carpet-cleaning-roi/

Check out your ROI

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AugEA4y-u1ildGQyMXQyaGhsdUtraXgxS3pBMHVRcHc&usp=sharing#gid=0

Lets not forget that when your talking about marketing your really talking about demand. selling is a different subject

See You On G+

https://plus.google.com/+IanHarper/

Buckland

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Re: Real Proof
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 04:35:49 pm »
Ian - dont take offence and Im sure you are a fine cc and a great thinker about the 'game' - Its just that I have this sneaking feeling whenever I see one of your posts that you are doing something clever to boost your G+ ratings that has lots of positive benefits elsewhere within the googlebox - things that thickies like me dont know about - any truth to this theory - its just that you seem to start a lot of threads and then go awol - Im sure you will correct me if I am mistaken

Buckland Carpet & Fabric Care :: 01590 688938
www.SteamCleanCarpetService.co.uk

Carpet Dawg

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Re: Real Proof
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 08:12:15 pm »
your right Buckland apart from Ian posting his google +1 status has no benefit at all. I doubt anyone even clicks on his links anymore.

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Real Proof
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 09:12:14 pm »
I never click on his links and I suggest everyone else that sees Ian's posts for what they are, do likewise and maybe then he might stop taking the p out of us for his own ends. >:(

ian harper

Re: Real Proof
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2014, 04:16:07 pm »
https://plus.google.com/101557752785793986239/posts/MZvRWMRVZqy

https://plus.google.com/101557752785793986239/posts/QR67gpdm3xa

cleaners spend thousands on investing in training, new products, and equipment in the hope that it will add to turnover. how many have had buyers remorse? really? no one admits it publicly.

I agree we all need a kick up the backside from time to time but not to spend money on information that's freely available on amazon and G+  ;D from much less.

BTW this is not about G+ as I have said before I dont publish information here because its got a wall around it.

If we dont stand up and tell these people that we are not idiots they keep taking the money. I have nothing to fear publishing my numbers so why cant they?

If trying to stop people spending money that is a waste in my view if that's selfish then so be it. these testimonials are like a customer review on your sales presentation before you clean. view them for what they are peoples views on the content not the outcome from that content.

Mike and his dad are top guys I just dont like the way they sell these courses. I have the right to a view
 

Hilton

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Re: Real Proof
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2014, 04:56:55 pm »
I just dont get it , whats it all for ? what do you/does he hope to achieve by this.

By the way I also never click on a link I am worried that some nasty might attack my system.

Mike Halliday

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Re: Real Proof
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2014, 06:11:35 pm »
Mike and his dad are top guys I just dont like the way they sell these courses. I have the right to a view

Ian who are you referring to?

I have clicked on your links and all I can see is meaningless random numbers & percentages, they mean nothing without seeing the full picture. You could have just made them up

ROI
442%
896%
246%
328%
1559%
1078%
3359%
1722%
91%
27150%
5%
939%
1304%
-96%


&

Cost Of   Customer
£10.25
£9.36
£20.14
£27.34
£6.57
£4.67
£2.10
£4.03
£27.91
£0.25
£38.26
£7.11
£4.86
#DIV/0!
£2.56
£2.40
£14.13
£24.43
£10.68
£32.05
£10.00
£7.67
£9.21
£4.58
£9.47
£7.78
£26.49
£6.90
£18.62
£34.36

You make out you are quite happy to publish your numbers, so how about keeping it simple.

what's was your gross takingsfor June? What was your spend on marketing? How many customers did you clean for?
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Billy Russell

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Re: Real Proof
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2014, 07:49:20 pm »
Haven't clicked through,  but is it my testimonial? If it is, would you care to come up to my unit Ian? Or give me a call 07538089693? I assure you that I am true to my word, mike and his dad are great guys who have really helped my business, I've been on a few courses but this one is brilliant and well worth every penny, now that is my opinion and you more than entitled to yours, I'm not going to have any sort of debate on a forum as quite frankly I can't be bothered as I have far to much work to do than sit on a forum, but my number is there, your more than welcome to call, thar offer is open to anyone that wants to know how good this course is,

Regards
Billy the blower  ;D

Craigp

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Re: Real Proof
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2014, 07:53:41 pm »
Yes your on one of them Billy with your welsh accent.  ;D ;D

dan paton

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Re: Real Proof
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2014, 09:28:27 pm »
Yeah your on it Billy but your not as sharp as Ian.. You never got any links in  ;D

jim mca

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Re: Real Proof
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2014, 09:48:57 pm »
Mike askes if you would like to give a testimonial there is no pressure it is a very enjoyable course it can make you a bit of money or a lot of money that's up to you

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Real Proof
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2014, 08:03:19 pm »
This is a different course Jim. It's not the practical stone course. It's internet marketing and what is working now and what you should be expecting from any web/seo service you may employ or how do do it yourself  and in which areas.

I have been part of this for 3 years now and will post some figures of what has happened in our business in the last 6 months since implementing the strategys taught on the (quarterly) kick up the arse version of it.

One I can share just now is that from one piece if internet marketing I have quoted £6 grands worth of work within two weeks of implementing it and it took less than an hour to put into practice at a  one off cost of  £20.

This is something not being taught anywhere else and is a unique strategy that only 3 of the group are using.

garry22

Re: Real Proof
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2014, 09:33:27 pm »
Jamie, probably different but sounds a bit like the salesletter that always gets to the target and always gets read.

Mike made an interesting point in the outdoor video about employing SEO companies without knowing whether they were doing the right stuff or not. So true.

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Real Proof
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2014, 10:43:59 pm »
Within the group there have been a few bad experiences that helped illustrate that point. Also practical examples of what gives the best bang for your buck/effort.