[Smudger]

PW ing has been a real eye opener this year, it's been great and a really good stream of work coming in, so much so I'm now doing the sums for a dedicated PW van.

I've found the gx390 and inter pump more than a match for the jobs I've done, BUT

it's a killer when your unloading it for the third time in a day, and all the gubbins and tank etc... Time is lost waiting to fill etc...

Now I know I could just bolt this into a van with a tank plus reel and be done with it, however we normally work as a 2 man team, sometimes because there is other works, gutter clear, SFG cleaning, or PW work is fitted in between regular window cleans. So I would like a machine that could run 2 operators drastically cutting down time spent on the job and not having some1 ( or me ) standing around with their thumb stuck up their backside.

So looking for recommendations on larger van mounted pressure washing systems makes, size, reliability etc..

Thanks
Darran

[wpclean]

Damian at Qwashers has made a van mounted frame for your model pwasher, maybe worth talking to him.

[Matt Gibson]

If you want a twin operator set up you will need at least 30lpm. You will then need a engine to run it at atleast 20hp minimum. Plus the fuel tank, hose reel etc. Kubot or lombardini engines. Expensive new, keep your eyes on ebay/gumtree.

[Smudger]

Cheers Matt thinking diesel so would share fuel from van like the diesel water heating systems do.

Darran

[Kevin Miller]

PW ing has been a real eye opener this year, it's been great and a really good stream of work coming in, so much so I'm now doing the sums for a dedicated PW van.

I've found the gx390 and inter pump more than a match for the jobs I've done, BUT

it's a killer when your unloading it for the third time in a day, and all the gubbins and tank etc... Time is lost waiting to fill etc...

Now I know I could just bolt this into a van with a tank plus reel and be done with it, however we normally work as a 2 man team, sometimes because there is other works, gutter clear, SFG cleaning, or PW work is fitted in between regular window cleans. So I would like a machine that could run 2 operators drastically cutting down time spent on the job and not having some1 ( or me ) standing around with their thumb stuck up their backside.

So looking for recommendations on larger van mounted pressure washing systems makes, size, reliability etc..

Thanks
Darran

Lee kenny may be a good guy to answer this as I know he has a great set up

[Rob_Mac]

Wouldn't you be better having machines that don't draw from your vehicle fuel tank. Cherry is about 80 pence per litre. White is considerably more!

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

As someone who has two twin operator units I would recommend that you go down the route of one man & one machine.

Nightmare taking all the pressure & flow on your lance when the other guy stops pressing the trigger.

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

Don't listen to me though Smudge.

I'm just a one man band, who makes no money and doesn't charge enough but if I get another set up and van (which is doubtful because I don't know how to run a business) I would be putting a set up in a box van.

With two 30 LPM machines, a decent size hotbox and that would give me further options.

I've worked two independant 15 LPM machines from more than one van, over the last 8 years of making no money

Chris will be along in a minute to give you his 'Bannatyne' experience!

Rob

[Smudger]

Good points Rob.

Forgot about red diesel !!!

Yes 2 Independent machines is another option, I just thought you more experienced guys just went bigger and better running multiple men off a huge machine 😃

Believe me Rob, your input and experience is beyond reproach 👍

Darran

[wpclean]

Wouldn't you be better having machines that don't draw from your vehicle fuel tank. Cherry is about 80 pence per litre. White is considerably more!

Rob

Do you buy in Bulk Rob, it just under under a quid a litre here !

[BDCS]

Search your local farmers co-op or buying group. I get mine from Kent wool growers and can buy as little as 600 ltrs at more or less the price Rob mentions. They take the orders then ring round their suppliers and buy the order at the best price - you all share the bulk price and the lorry just drives round multiple drops. VATS only 5% on red

[KLEENAWAY]

Search your local farmers co-op or buying group. I get mine from Kent wool growers and can buy as little as 600 ltrs at more or less the price Rob mentions. They take the orders then ring round their suppliers and buy the order at the best price - you all share the bulk price and the lorry just drives round multiple drops. VATS only 5% on red

"As little as" 

[Rob_Mac]

I don't know what happened a couple of years ago - it went from 45 per litre, up to 85 pence,

Extortion, extortion I say.

Coming down your way today Carl, not quite France (where your postcode is) Staplehurst!

Towing the shot blaster - not for reward though, helping a mate out

Rob

[Rob_Mac]

There's pros and cons

I hate it when I have to split the H & M's flow, when working with someone else, 17 LPM is just pants when you have had more flow.

In your circumstances I may take the machines out of the wheeled frames, if they have one, possibly have a frame made that would be enough to cope, mount them side by side, reducing bulk but then you're just buying one more similar machine.

You can link machines together so 2 @ 21 will give you one @ 42 LPM.

35 & 40 LPM machines will shift just about anything, with very little chemical assistance but they also drink a lot of water and keeping them filled is always a problem, even on big commercial jobs.

The H & M is fantastic on fuel. I will get a solid week of ten hour days out of one tank, 70 quid. The Thor, when it is on full grunt will need topping up every couple of hours.

Keep it simple.

Rob

[wpclean]

Search your local farmers co-op or buying group. I get mine from Kent wool growers and can buy as little as 600 ltrs at more or less the price Rob mentions. They take the orders then ring round their suppliers and buy the order at the best price - you all share the bulk price and the lorry just drives round multiple drops. VATS only 5% on red

Thanks mate 

[Rob_Mac]

Samo

Every winter I say I am going to buy 1000 litres and have it ready in the unit.

I think I could save ten pence per litre, by buying in bulk. When the first job comes in I always end up down there, filling my 25 litre containers and wishing I had bought it as one big lump!!!!

£100.00 saving doesn't seem here or there but it is when you start adding up, particularly as I don't make any money.

Rob

[Matt Gibson]

I looked into getting the cherry delivered to me but they said i needed a bumded tank. So off i plod to fill up my 25L containers.

[BDCS]

In theory you do but mines not and nor are 90% of tanks on farms - petrol stations serve diesel into unbunded containers every day as car tanks and your jerry cans are only single skin. Most house heating oil tanks are still single skin.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Atlas-bunded-oil-storage-tank-with-watchman-/181459089526?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item2a3fcdf876

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heating-oil-tank-Titan-1300-ltr-plastic-bunded-tank-/111404210098?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&hash=item19f03557b2

Won't take long to pay for itself if your running white. They also come up cheap at farm and collective sales - Hobbs Parker run them down here.

The other alternative is to hack the top off a 1000 ltr ibc and drop a 600 inside and then pump it out with a hand pump.

[Matt Gibson]

Yeah, I've seen a few cheapish ones come up, but the problem is i don't have anywhere to keep the tank.

I might have to "make room" because the depot where i go to fill my 25L up is an hours drive away. An there is no way im running my machine on white.

[Smudger]

There's pros and cons

I hate it when I have to split the H & M's flow, when working with someone else, 17 LPM is just pants when you have had more flow.

In your circumstances I may take the machines out of the wheeled frames, if they have one, possibly have a frame made that would be enough to cope, mount them side by side, reducing bulk but then you're just buying one more similar machine.

You can link machines together so 2 @ 21 will give you one @ 42 LPM.

35 & 40 LPM machines will shift just about anything, with very little chemical assistance but they also drink a lot of water and keeping them filled is always a problem, even on big commercial jobs.

The H & M is fantastic on fuel. I will get a solid week of ten hour days out of one tank, 70 quid. The Thor, when it is on full grunt will need topping up every couple of hours.

Keep it simple.

Rob

Cheers rob, I think 2 Independant machines will be the way to go, got a customer who runs a fabrication company and an engineering company is in the unit next door so a custom base should be doable.

Didn't know you could link them together sounds exciting !!!

Darran