found part of the problem
the thread on the spindle had a little bit of it snap of last year, then with using different elbows, straight connections, plastic, metal it has slightly crossed threaded as well, but because the thread length as now been shortened its not pushing the fiber washer full up against the internal face and this allowing the water to escape thru the arm area.
I know this because today it poped off and i ended up going to corwoods and purchasing a new reel and the elbow on the new threaded spindle works a treat