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use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« on: March 09, 2006, 06:37:09 pm »
Very interesting discussion has taken place here.  I was very surprised to learn that at building sites in the UK all appliances have to be 110 volts or less.

Does anyone here know anything about it?

Kind regards,
Arthur

garyj

Re: use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2006, 06:40:20 pm »
Yes

Re: use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2006, 06:42:02 pm »
Yes what?  ???

garyj

Re: use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2006, 06:44:58 pm »
Yes, I know all electrical appliances on UK building sites should be 110volts.

Re: use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2006, 06:46:18 pm »
Very interesting.  Why?

CMS

Re: use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2006, 07:16:26 pm »
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong............................

I am presuming that its to reduce the effects of electricution in an environment where the risk of damage to cables etc. is quite high.

Perhaps the guys who do a lot of builders cleans will tell us more?

Neil Mc Anulty

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Re: use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2006, 07:30:28 pm »
Hi
CMS is spot on. It is a big issue with H&S and you could be removed from site if seen by the H&S officer.
You would be in very big trouble if an accident was to happen and it was caused by a 240v appliance

Cheers
Neil

Re: use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2006, 07:53:19 pm »
The theory is that 110 volts, with a "centre tap earth" has only 55 volts to earth. The theory is also that it takes 60 volts to kill you. Now I haven't tried these theories, but there you are.

Many people use 110 volt equipment and plug it into a 240 volt / 110 volt transformer. Now the transformer is just as dangerous as a 240 volt tool. Many of these transformers are left in puddles, cases cracked, leads damaged, etc etc.

Any area where water can be present is limited to 24 volts.

To be honest, in this day and age, you could get any hand tool as a cordless, and save a whole lot of hassle.

You will see equipmenty over 110 volts on many building sites. A large concrete mixer could well be 3-phase 415 volts.

It is HAND HELD EQUIPMENT that is limited to 110 volts.
So if your carpet cleaner is a "tube and wand" like a Prochem Steempro, 240 volts is fine. If it's a "walk behind", like a Rug Doctor, you might need 110 volts. If you are using a Pressure Washer, you aren't holding the equipment (only the lance, which like a CC wand is isolated by a long hose) so 240 should be ok. If you are using an electric drill, then you need 110. (but just get a good cordless)

EXCEPT: the 110 volt rule is for whilst construction is taking place. Now I don't think many people lay carpets before construction is completed, so carpet cleaners working on new estates are fine with 240 volts (as the house you are in is not under construction)

Oh..... I almost forgot..... thanks to Europe, our 240 volts is now called 230 volts.

martin19842

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Re: use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2006, 04:53:48 pm »
hi there

we carry both 110 and 230 vacuum cleaners,

the grey area, is that cleaning is carried out in "finished plots" and therefore you dont get much grief.

but when power is not available, then 110v only as extension cbles to be used

regards

martin

Re: use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2006, 05:08:43 pm »
Thank you Martin

DP

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Re: use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2006, 05:16:20 pm »
240v pressure washers are definitely NOT ok as far as the HSE are concerned. We were stopped on site a few years ago for this and ordered to use 110v following a spot inspection.

We were using 5 hot pressure washers on a very large building from 60 foot cherry pickers. The surprise was that the 110v washers were not as efficient and left a tide mark right across the roof where we had finished with  the 240v ones.

However the client (Tarmac) accepted the results given our predicament.
Everyone seems normal untill you get to know them!

Re: use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2006, 07:00:09 pm »
DP: Thank you, I stand corrected.

preston powerblast

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Re: use of 110 volts appliances in the UK
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2006, 07:01:53 pm »
I spent a lot of time doing site work in Belgium, Holland and Germany Everything was 110v no doubt we will very soon have to step in line, as for pressure washers its simple just use petrol ones.