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jimlaffo

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Roof rack dilemma/ advice
« on: October 15, 2013, 04:42:20 pm »
Hi, bought a dispatch a couple of months ago and decided to fit my own roof rack. It was a universal one, only £65. Fitted it fine and looked ok but after driving it for a few weeks I've noticed the bars have gradually slid over to one side of the van. It's still secure and safe but I can't seem to keep the bars in the same position for longer than a week or 2. I think what's happening is the bars are moving slightly due to the vibrations of the drive. Suppose what I want to know is, how can I keep the bars solid and secure in the same place and have no chance of them sliding? I have tightened them as far as they go but they still slide. The nuts/ washers aren't keeping it secure enough. Is there a way to weld it in place? Any material I can put on the nuts/ washers to stop them moving?
Or should I take it off and get one fitted at halfords?!
Thanks

cgh window cleaning

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Re: Roof rack dilemma/ advice
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2013, 05:07:53 pm »
If your rack is from halfords it's may not be intended for heaven use.
Buy a good quality heavy duty one.
I got mine from maxus racks about £170,it is fixed by bolts through the roof.very strong and secure.

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Roof rack dilemma/ advice
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013, 05:55:05 pm »
evil bay and gum tree is your friend on this just got a top end roof rack for my transit 120 pounds its only 1 year old and you just have to love the little rinnos on the side

andyM

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Re: Roof rack dilemma/ advice
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2013, 05:55:25 pm »
That don't sound normal?  ???
You should really be using roof bars with a minimum of 50kg load carrying capacity if you're not already.
If you're sure you have fitted them correctly and everything is tightened up as should be and you're not overloading the rack then take them back to where you bought them.
I can't figure out why you would get this problem if fitted correctly as it should just be a matter of tightening up nuts and bolts.
I've used Auto maxi roof bars in the past on a couple of different vans, think they cost around £60-£70, available from most motor parts sellers/ebay etc.
And they were ok, never had any problems with them.
Im currently using a set of Rhino Delta roof bars on my new van.
One of the Plebs

johnny bravo

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Re: Roof rack dilemma/ advice
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2013, 06:18:53 pm »
get a rack with your vehicle written on the box    ,just take it back 4 a refund if its no good, not worth the risk, you may brake quickly and  damage something

Spruce

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Re: Roof rack dilemma/ advice
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2013, 06:25:04 pm »
Hi, bought a dispatch a couple of months ago and decided to fit my own roof rack. It was a universal one, only £65. Fitted it fine and looked ok but after driving it for a few weeks I've noticed the bars have gradually slid over to one side of the van. It's still secure and safe but I can't seem to keep the bars in the same position for longer than a week or 2. I think what's happening is the bars are moving slightly due to the vibrations of the drive. Suppose what I want to know is, how can I keep the bars solid and secure in the same place and have no chance of them sliding? I have tightened them as far as they go but they still slide. The nuts/ washers aren't keeping it secure enough. Is there a way to weld it in place? Any material I can put on the nuts/ washers to stop them moving?
Or should I take it off and get one fitted at halfords?!
Thanks


The Citroen/Peugeot/Scudo roofrack was a complete unit with sides and needed to be shimmed to set up correctly. They were also very expensive and expensive to fit.

The most common after market roofracks came in 3 parts per bar, 2 supports, 2 U shaped brackets and the cross bar. The 2 U shaped  brackets hold the bar onto the support brackets. Unfortunately, they designed it so friction stops the bars from sliding sideways. With age this stops holding the bars tightly enough.

If this is what yours is, can you try to tighten the bolts a bit?

If this doesn't work then there is another solution. Prise off the plastic trim end carefully of the cross bar and see if you can get your fingers far enough into the hollow to reach the position of the u bracket. If you can, then line the bar into its proper postion. Now drill a hole through the centre of the bracket and the top section of the roof rack, and then secure with a nut and bolt. you will have to do the same thing on the other side and other bar/bars.

If this isn't possible, then could you drill a smaller hole and hold the bar to the bracket with large, heavy duty stainless steel pop rivets.

Or you could get some 5.5mm x 19mm TEC/TEK self drill roofing screws and drive them in with a drilling machine and adaptor, but being careful not to screw them in too fast and strip the threads. Any electronic speed controlled drill would be best.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-5mm-x-19mm-12g-x-3-4-TEK-TEC-SELF-DRILLING-METAL-SCREWS-ZINC-8mm-HEX-HEAD-/190767472608?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&var=490121284318&hash=item2c6aa09fe0#ht_2023wt_1399

Or could you drill a hole right through the bar and put a bolt and nylocnut on it just tightening enough not to flatten the bar. You have to be careful not the miss the ledge of the support, but leave enough room to put a nut on the bolt.

The next possibility is to drill a hole through the bar on each side of the support so the nut and bolt will prevent the bar from sliding either way.

You may even be able to do something like this with these type of U Bolts.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZS308-Dispatch-Expert-Scudo-Roof-rack-bars-up-to-07-/370300479913?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Touring_Travel&hash=item5637a0e9a9#ht_4159wt_1161

Let us know what you think once you have had a look.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

jimlaffo

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Re: Roof rack dilemma/ advice
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2013, 08:16:17 pm »
Thanks for your replies.
It's a standard 2 roof bar rack. A universal one that can fit the scudo dispatch and expert.
After reading your replies its making me think I should try another way of bolting it on, perhaps using some larger nuts and bolts. I am also going to look for a glue/ cement adhesive that I could possibly apply onto the nuts once they are tightly fitted.
If this fails I shall bite the bullet and get a thule rack fitted at halfords for £165. Had one fitted on my last vehicle and it stayed solid for 4 years.
Went for the cheaper option, probably made the wrong decision.

andi wilson

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Re: Roof rack dilemma/ advice
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2013, 08:41:22 pm »
Get some thread lock from your local motor factor and spread onto your nuts ( :o)and bolts then tighten...

Or replace your nuts with nylock nuts.. These won't undo..

jimlaffo

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Re: Roof rack dilemma/ advice
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2013, 10:06:53 pm »
Cheers Andi, will do

TheWindowManChris

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Re: Roof rack dilemma/ advice
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2013, 10:33:49 pm »
I have City-Load from bri-stor on my van.     They are great and safe and soo sleek.   Again I got them as Northgate offer them.