[john martin]

Just wondering is there a huge difference between entrance level tm and new portys. Just toying with the idea of maybe another van with good porty a rotovac 360i or the mytee tm

You seem to have it in your head that there is a new generation of portable machines that can match TM's for power, performance and productivity. The problem portable machines have and always will have is that you can only generated so much power from one 13amp cable, about 2 horsepower. An entry level TM is 18 - 20 horsepower and more.


Simon

That makes it sound like performance is limited to one cord  ...

Take for example this mytee portable and trailing booster  ...  this has the performance of a small truckmount  .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVIBnuq50h4
In the UK this could be one cord for the main front machine , like the enforcer .  and just a second cord for the twin vac booster . ( plugged into the same room )
If you want your 3000w of inline heat you simply plug into a separate circuit .  Its really not that hard to utilize a second circuit  . If im running two heated portables in the one house i would often ask politely if i could run an extension lead from the utility room . Never a problem .
There are not many high performance options for UK portables at the moment , i'd say they build them only when there is a demand .  Likewise the ETM has a big future imo ...
but it will a while to catch on .... first perhaps run as an occasional second van setup .
The Escape has at least shown  that it can be done with electric vacs and the advantages in running costs and general ease of maintenance .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrtJ3cA3m7I

So three cords if you want performance and heat. Apparently that is illegal.
But why not bother when you can have a proper truck mount with so much more power and performance that also doubles as a highly effective market system and USP booster
I know you sell these things John, so are bound to big up what few advantages they have up, however the reality is somewhat different if you're going to try and compare them to a truck mount.

Simon

There is no three cord machine mentioned   


Tsk ...  im not a supplier   

[Russ Chadd]

Im not saying that all people with truckmounts do this... but... a few people i have spoken to over the past few months do exactly what Darren has posted.. walk in without vacuuming and straight into pre spraying.
With all that squirt and suck at your disposal is there not a risk of cutting out the other bits?

[Darren O]

For the first 6 or 7 years I think I vacuumed every carpet I cleaned but I stopped that long before I got a truckmount now I prespray then TM4 then extract with a Prochem Quad Wand I think ive used my Sebo 36 about 4 or 5 times this year.

[Simon Gerrard]

Russ,
It's a fair question.
I had a Flexi 5 pile lifter which way out performs your standard commercial vacuum.
We did some tests on domestic carpets. Flexi 5 with a clean filter. Next to nothing in the Flexi filter, but  after cleaning the carpet, the in-line filter to the TM (previously squeaky clean) has grit and junk in it which the Flexi had missed.
I think that poses the question, why waste time vacuuming a carpet with a tool that is a fraction of the power of what you are just about to clean it with? The contents of both filters IMO provides the answer.

Simon

[Russ Chadd]

Interesting...