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Poll

How many business miles a year do you do in a year?

up to 5,000
23.4%
11 (23.4%)
up to 10,000
31.9%
15 (31.9%)
up to 15,000
19.1%
9 (19.1%)
up to 20,000
4.3%
2 (4.3%)
up to 25,000
6.4%
3 (6.4%)
up to 30,000
2.1%
1 (2.1%)
up to 35,000

0 (0%)
Over 35,000
6.4%
3 (6.4%)
JUst voting to see the poll results
6.4%
3 (6.4%)

Total Members Voted: 41

Voting closed: August 16, 2013, 04:56:33 pm

Perfect Windows

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[POLL] How many business miles in a year
« on: August 02, 2013, 04:56:33 pm »
If you run ten vans, it's the average we're looking for.

tlwcs

  • Posts: 2088
Re: [POLL] How many business miles in a year
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2013, 05:02:22 pm »
Van from 3 month old with 3,000 on it 5 years ago. Total milage now 33,000
So bang on 6,000 a year for me
Tony

Frankybadboy

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Re: [POLL] How many business miles in a year
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 08:05:29 pm »
max 5000 for me

ben M

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Re: [POLL] How many business miles in a year
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2013, 08:16:58 pm »
5000 last year, probably around 8000 this year

jarvy

  • Posts: 1048
Re: [POLL] How many business miles in a year
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2013, 10:08:34 pm »
About 11'000.
Thought mine was quite low,maybe not after looking at others!
www.wedgwoodcleaning.co.uk

"If you were twice as smart, you'd still be stupid"

AuRavelling79

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Re: [POLL] How many business miles in a year
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2013, 10:41:27 pm »
'bout 5000.
It's a game of three halves!

PoleKing

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Re: [POLL] How many business miles in a year
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2013, 11:14:34 pm »
Bout 12k
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

Perfect Windows

  • Posts: 4179
Re: [POLL] How many business miles in a year
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2013, 08:54:37 am »
To the two people who have answered over 35,000 miles a year.

45 working weeks a year means 780+ miles a week.

At an average of, say, 40mph, that's 20+ hours a week spent driving.

Is that an accurate reflection of your working week, namely more than half of it spent driving?

Vin

formb

Re: [POLL] How many business miles in a year
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2013, 12:57:19 pm »
Quote from: Perfect Windows
To the two people who have answered over 35,000 miles a year.

45 working weeks a year means 780+ miles a week.

At an average of, say, 40mph, that's 20+ hours a week spent driving.

Is that an accurate reflection of your working week, namely more than half of it spent driving?

Vin

Perhaps, like say Dean Taberner, you drive hundreds of miles on the motorway to get to jobs, or you have a contract for schools that are 100s of miles apart, 35,000 a year is not as unrealistic as you think. Definitely not the norm I'd say; but possible.

formb

Re: [POLL] How many business miles in a year
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2013, 01:14:10 pm »
OK, so you've proved your point; 'most' window cleaners do less than 10,000 per year. The average is still around 13,000 so in my view robertphil's assumption that 'most' window cleaners do 15,000 per year is still a fair one.

As far as your round not being compact, you set this poll up and you are pretty much in the bottom bracket. Doesn't that suggest something to you? I appreciate that perhaps not all your work is on your doorstep but to have all your customers within a 10 mile radius is pretty compact by 'most' window cleaners standards. In fact more than 70% of the window cleaners in a recent poll travel as far or further than you.

Sometimes I think you are contrary for the sake of being contrary.

Perfect Windows

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Re: [POLL] How many business miles in a year
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2013, 02:03:02 pm »
OK, so you've proved your point; 'most' window cleaners do less than 10,000 per year. The average is still around 13,000 so in my view robertphil's assumption that 'most' window cleaners do 15,000 per year is still a fair one.

As far as your round not being compact, you set this poll up and you are pretty much in the bottom bracket. Doesn't that suggest something to you? I appreciate that perhaps not all your work is on your doorstep but to have all your customers within a 10 mile radius is pretty compact by 'most' window cleaners standards. In fact more than 70% of the window cleaners in a recent poll travel as far or further than you.

Sometimes I think you are contrary for the sake of being contrary.

I'm not proving a point.  There is no point to prove.  All I've done here is try to get the facts rather than the guessed numbers being bandied about elsewhere (and I include me in that statement, mine was, obviously until this poll, guesswork!).  Sorry for wanting facts, but that's what I base my business on rather than guesswork.  I've posted DOZENS of times about factual information being necessary. As an example, I've posted about the importance of knowing how many houses there are in your catchment area - how else can you plan your business?  I also launched several polls when I was deciding whether to rinse brush on or off.  You see, facts help me to make decisions in an informed way.

You seem to have an axe to grind.  By far the most common response (at the time of typing) with 62% of responses is under 10K miles (under10K + under 5K), so there is no way at all that "robertphil's assumption that 'most' window cleaners do 15,000 per year is still a fair one" can possibly be true.  However, believe whatever you like.  I really don't care.  Genuinely, I don't give a toss what you want to believe.

You see, unlike you (I suspect), I was just interested in the results.  I'm astounded that someone's driving 35K miles plus - 20+ hours a week in the van would be too much wasted time for me but they must have a business model that supports it, hence my question above (see, question, rather than statement or argument, no point to prove, no axe to grind).  When I don't understand something I'm not ashamed to ask questions rather than trying to screw the data to fit my suppositions.  

Believe it or not, I'd have been just as pleased if the most common answer had been 15K miles. Or 20K miles.  Or 25K miles.  I don't care.  My guess doesn't matter.  Facts are facts.  Knowing them matters massively to me. If I'd found that most people were driving 25k miles a year, I'd have been asking a bundle more questions to find out what they could see and do that I couldn't; I'd clearly have been missing a trick.  That's what I like about facts.  They fascinate me and they give me reasons to move my business in the right direction.

I wish I could tell you how astounded I am to find out that apparently I have compact work.  Truly astounded.  I waste so much time driving it horrifies me.  If you're interested, over the past two weeks (just checked from the tracker) I've wasted 1h43m driving daily on average.  Cut that out and I'd be earning a lump more cash or working shorter hours.  I will be very happy when we have 30 franchisees covering the area (the facts I know about the area we cover have allowed me to make that statement without it being just a wild guess as to what we can achieve).  It looks like they'll all be doing maybe 1,000 business miles a year and raking it in.  Good.  My sole aim in (my business) life is happy franchisees.

If you're interested (and I doubt you are), the results here and comments on another thread on the same subject have already made me think about something I could change in the way we do business, so I'm happy.

If this poll is my being "contrary for the sake of being contrary" then I'm genuinely mystified.  I just asked a question to assess whether my guesswork was accurate, nothing more.  If you think it was a dig at you of some kind, then so be it.

Vin

formb

Re: [POLL] How many business miles in a year
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2013, 02:09:45 pm »
All the best to you Vin.