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p5 code on pure freedom trolley
« on: July 28, 2013, 11:51:25 am »
I've got a p5 code on pure freedom trolley, the controller lights up but the pump is not activating, any one know what this is..?

Graham

dave0123

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Re: p5 code on pure freedom trolley
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2013, 12:11:27 pm »
It means the pressure switch has been activated on the pump and not the one that the controller has.
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Re: p5 code on pure freedom trolley
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2013, 12:15:44 pm »
Is there a way of resetting it Dave

Graham

dave0123

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Re: p5 code on pure freedom trolley
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2013, 12:47:09 pm »
It could have air in the system? which is why the pressure switch on the pump has been activated maybe run the pump for few mins quite high then try it?


Its only happened to me once first thing in the morning i think it was just air trapped in the pipe.

There website says this:

What do I do if PS is displayed?

If PS is displayed, this means that the pump's pressure switch has been operated due to a high build up of pressure in your system. The controller is set to work with a 5.2 litre per minute pump up to 100psi, although it will work at higher ranges. Common causes for the pressure switch operating are:

1. A restriction to the water flow, i.e. from a twisted hose.

2. Blocked or small water jets. (We recommended that the jets are no smaller than 2mm).

3. Grit or dirt trapped in the system.

4. Air trapped in the system.

5. Prolonged shut off of the water flow.

In very rare cases if you have disconnected the pressure switch and are relying only on the controller to detect Dead End, the following can occur:

1. The controller will re-test the DE every few seconds.

2. The pump may keep turning on and off.

3. The system pressure may build.

4. The hose connections may fail.

5. Damage to the pump and controller.

We recommend that the controller is always operated with the pressure switch enabled, to provide even greater protection against pressure damage to your system.

 
Dave.

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Re: p5 code on pure freedom trolley
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2013, 03:54:44 pm »

Lee Pryor

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Re: p5 code on pure freedom trolley
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2013, 09:51:08 pm »
the PS also comes up and stops the pump working if the pressure switch wire (the blue one) is discontected, it may have come off without you noticing. this has happend to us a few times. so check the entire length of the wire for a loose connection
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Re: p5 code on pure freedom trolley
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2013, 10:03:51 pm »
Cheers all

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Re: p5 code on pure freedom trolley
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2013, 10:58:18 pm »
i have checked the wiring and there are two wires from pump to controller and two wires from battery to controller only, there doesn't seem to be an external blue wire to a pressure switch at all, it all lights up but cannot get the pump to run at all, shall i run the wires straight from the pump to the battery to check that the pump works..?

Graham

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Re: p5 code on pure freedom trolley
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2013, 10:57:40 am »
Thank you lee,Dave and Ben

Graham The brown and blue cables from controller run out to the pump, Check these connections and replace any damaged or worn connectors and cable if you find them.

Also check the cables on the pump these run from the pump base to the pressure switch. If any of these cables has a break or gets disconnected the control think the pressure switch has activated as the circuit is open.

Did the pump run OK connected direct to the battery of did it splutter (air in the line)? From your description
I am guessing you have an analogue controller it may be the calibration needs altering to take into account softer hose walls and water flowing a little faster in the hot weather.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_6dPgfBjSI analogue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kKoskb7l7c&list=UL Digital

   The units are very flexible as to the range of pumps, hose and micro bore they will work with. The pump pressures up the system in order to establish a flow. The controller need to know what this pressure is. The amount of pressure required will in part depend on how fast the flow is or how far the pole is extended.

So why calibrate the controller to a pump?

What we are doing is telling the control what the maximum pressure the system normally operates at. To get a good flow at the brush head the system is probably running between 40 - 70 PSI. So the control knows that the normal max level is 70 PSI. When a user stops the water flow the pump will attempt to push against the restriction increasing the pressure above 70 PSI the pump sees this sudden rise and stops the pump. This is what we refer to as DEAD END (DE).

At this time of year the water Viscosity is high meaning the water flows faster add soft hose walls meaning the hose will expand more as well. These factors could mean the pressure in your system is higher than normal and altering the calibration may help.

Also how long have you had the analogue controller?
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Re: p5 code on pure freedom trolley
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2013, 11:42:04 am »
Thanks very much, rang in this morning and spoke to one of your techs, I'm going to bridge the pressure switch connectors then wire pump straight to battery if that doesn't identify a pressure switch problem, thanks to everyone who took the time to reply. Appreciate it..!

Graham