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bad payer
« on: July 27, 2013, 07:32:55 am »
did a builders clean for a pub owner, he hasnt payed yet i did the job on the 28th june, he is not  returning email or phone calls whats the best way to deal with this.?

do i need to give him more time or am i being impatient.
I did think of going and ordering a slap up dinner one night and then walking out not paying him, he owes £130.00


britishwill

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Re: bad payer
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2013, 07:38:03 am »
I would just go to the pub and get a pint and say ow my the way can you pay me the money you owe me. Keep it civil unless he declines, which he wont!

Hopefully you will get the beer for free!

Re: bad payer
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2013, 07:52:26 am »
Yeh go when their serving food and its busy.he won't want you kicking off .

Scrimble

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Re: bad payer
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2013, 10:17:23 am »
go in and get your money,  you shouldnt have left it this long,

learn from it and future cleans like this tell them you want paying straight after the job is done, i did a conservatory/fascia clean a couple of weeks ago as a one off, the custy wanted to post me a cheque or bank transfer the money,  i told them i wanted cash on the day dont accept cheques from non regular custys or bank transfers i want paying straight after the job is done as i have experienced people who think they can delay paying for weeks/months in the past

deeege

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Re: bad payer
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2013, 10:48:28 am »
What payment terms did you agree on prior to you doing the work?

It's only been 30 days so maybe still a bit early for doorstepping him but it really depends on your terms.
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

C o z y

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Re: bad payer
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2013, 11:26:51 am »
If it smells like he doesn't want to pay, and looks like he doesn't want to pay, then it's fair to assume that he doesn't want to pay mate. Send a reminder, then the usual legal shyte can start and small claims court etc etc. Bad payers never change either, so I wouldn't want to keep a custy like him. 130 beer coupons is a lot of beer coupons.  >:(

HTH
No still don't understand, I must be thick

robertphil

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Re: bad payer
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2013, 11:40:24 am »
as said above , you should have got cash on the day .  if he doesnt pay up ,write him a few bad reviews about your experience  online, he will then likely pay up

AuRavelling79

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Re: bad payer
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2013, 03:57:28 pm »
did a builders clean for a pub owner, he hasnt payed yet i did the job on the 28th june, he is not  returning email or phone calls whats the best way to deal with this.?

do i need to give him more time or am i being impatient.
I did think of going and ordering a slap up dinner one night and then walking out not paying him, he owes £130.00



Go there and speak to him.  If he doesn't give you a satisfactory response and assuming he is the landlord make a show of looking at his licensing plate (above the door) and writing down his full name and the address of the pub.

Go away.

Go back when he is busy and say.

"Hello Mr. X I'd like to be paid by you for the work I did for you; you owe me £130.00 will you pay me please?"

No response.

"I am now taking all legal means to recover my money from you. I will also from this point onwards add any costs incurred."


Then leave.

Go back when he is there and busy. Take in a written letter of intent that you are intending to take him to court and loudly but politely say.

You have had (six) weeks to pay me, here is my letter of intent to tell you I am taking legal means to recover this debt. If you destroy it you have still been served.

Walk out and do a money claim on line - you need his full name and address.

Do not get abusive, do not shout, do not give him any excuse to remove you forcibly.



It's a game of three halves!

bobplum

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Re: bad payer
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2013, 04:45:48 pm »
did a builders clean for a pub owner, he hasnt payed yet i did the job on the 28th june, he is not  returning email or phone calls whats the best way to deal with this.?

do i need to give him more time or am i being impatient.
I did think of going and ordering a slap up dinner one night and then walking out not paying him, he owes £130.00




if you did that you can still be charged as its a separate item the civil courts would say you need to sue him for your money and you can be charged with theft from the pub so you can end up with a conviction and you still need to sue him
get the letter thats available on here....some people on here will know what it is called and take it to him in person

And take my advice...stay with your regulars

Paul Coleman

Re: bad payer
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2013, 04:58:15 pm »
did a builders clean for a pub owner, he hasnt payed yet i did the job on the 28th june, he is not  returning email or phone calls whats the best way to deal with this.?

do i need to give him more time or am i being impatient.
I did think of going and ordering a slap up dinner one night and then walking out not paying him, he owes £130.00




if you did that you can still be charged as its a separate item the civil courts would say you need to sue him for your money and you can be charged with theft from the pub so you can end up with a conviction and you still need to sue him
get the letter thats available on here....some people on here will know what it is called and take it to him in person

And take my advice...stay with your regulars

Interesting that non payment is theft when it's from a restaurant but not when it's the window cleaner.  I'm assuming that it's about proving prior intent.  If so, take no cash pay, for the meal by card and "forget" the PIN maybe?  His non payment of window cleaning is also a criminal act I believe, but only if you could prove that non payment was intended before the service was supplied (you can't).  However, he can't prove that you intentionally "forgot" your PIN.
Don't take my word for it as my memory is probably flawed on this.
I think prior intent is "obtaining goods or services by deception".

Re: bad payer
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2013, 05:47:59 pm »
Just try to have a beer at his pub with out paying or even pay later.

G Griffin

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Re: bad payer
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2013, 06:29:24 pm »
Just try to have a beer at his pub with out paying or even pay later.

No, offer him a drink.
A Molotov cocktail.
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koopmaster

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Re: bad payer
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2013, 08:42:34 pm »
I have customers who don't pay for several months.  I had 1 who had not paid since Christmas, I dropped him and then after 3 times of going up to his house I finally caught him on a sunday night.  he said he works 7 days a week and just asked me to wait and drove off and came back with £50 and paid for the last 6 months and the next 4 months.

the point is dont be so quick to drop them but rather just speak to them first.

andyM

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Re: bad payer
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2013, 08:44:24 pm »
Just try to have a beer at his pub with out paying or even pay later.

No, offer him a drink.
A Molotov cocktail.

 ;D
One of the Plebs

mark dew

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Re: bad payer
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2013, 09:09:13 pm »
I have customers who don't pay for several months.  I had 1 who had not paid since Christmas, I dropped him and then after 3 times of going up to his house I finally caught him on a sunday night.  he said he works 7 days a week and just asked me to wait and drove off and came back with £50 and paid for the last 6 months and the next 4 months.

the point is dont be so quick to drop them but rather just speak to them first.

I admire your patience matthew but this customer has zero value if you have to go back 3 times.

formb

Re: bad payer
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2013, 06:53:07 am »
Standard terms for all commercial work is 30 days. He is only just due now unless you agreed something different.