[Tom White]

Hi Tosh

I have no part in the FWC, i am just a paying member

What are they doing right ? most of the things in this link

http://www.taforum.org/creating-a-new-trade-association

Hmmmm.  I skimmed that link; it just talks about when to start a new trade association; not one that's been in existence since 1947!!???

You sure you posted the correct link?  It doesn't look relevant to me.

[SunShineCleaning]

A quote from the link:

"Membership

A trade association should be open to every company in the sector. The greater the membership in terms of both number of members and percentage of market covered the more credibility (and money) the trade association will have. A new or existing trade association should be very careful before rejecting any applications for membership as they could lay themselves open to legal action. In the short term the best policy is to accept into membership any organisation operating in the sector unless the association is being set up specifically for companies that subscribe to a particular code of practice or professional standard."

900 members and an estimated 80,000 window cleaners.
You make a good point for a new FED.

[Tom White]

900 members and an estimated 80,000 window cleaners.

Some estimates of the numbers of UK window cleaners are in the 180,000 mark.

[SunShineCleaning]

900 members and an estimated 80,000 window cleaners.

Some estimates of the numbers of UK window cleaners are in the 180,000 mark.

I saw that, if true its not representative of the industry.

[SunShineCleaning]

http://www.fwcsos.com/1/post/2013/07/too-many-chiefs.html

[CleanClear]

It has been suggested several times that they join the forums, have their own or even a section on CIU. They have refused all 3 suggestions.

Again its a communication issue.

Thats a cracking starting point for someone who is going to have dialouge with potential and existing members and put their points across a huge variety of platforms.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

it will be like the carpet cleaning ones full of know alls banging on about training and the more training you pay for buy them the better you become 

when in the real world , theres guys and girls out there that have been doing the jobs longer and better that's never done any training just learnt off the skills handed down from the years ,

 but because there no in the click there cowboys lol for this reason I am out

[trevor perry]

it will be like the carpet cleaning ones full of know alls banging on about training and the more training you pay for buy them the better you become 

when in the real world , theres guys and girls out there that have been doing the jobs longer and better that's never done any training just learnt off the skills handed down from the years ,

 but because there no in the click there cowboys lol for this reason I am out

 got to admit that is what I am fearfull of happening, although the FWC is not perfect I do think they come into action when needed ie when a drought order was threatening our work