thanks john i giv them a ring, hi ian , the reason i want one is for my 250 ltr, as at the min i fill it up with hot from home but if i only use half i hav to empty it out as it be stone cold next morning , so i thoght instead of wasting it id put some kind of element in it fill it up to the top and let it slowly heat up over night , i saw them once on the yanky site for recoil machines and u just drop it in the water and plug it in so i thought someone here might stock them
gary