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Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Aqua Dapter thread
« on: January 01, 2013, 01:46:41 pm »
What pole end thread on a Mk3 Aquadapter. Is it the Std Cheap brush thread ?

Spruce

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2013, 06:37:25 pm »
I think I know what you mean.

Yes, it the same as any normal brush - we used to buy Bentley brooms in Morrisons and fit jets to the Bentley brush head.

The Aquadapter screws onto any pole - Aquadapter have special fittings for Brodex. The other end of the AD takes a normal plastic angle adaptor which will then screws into your brush.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2013, 08:51:41 pm »
I thought as much so If I convert a harris pole with a bit of drilled out broom handle I should get an aquadapter to fit..


Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 02:57:29 pm »
Hmmmm Im getting all confused. I watched Waggas video on converting a Harris pole. Bought myself a couple of AD1 plastic angle adaptors off of ebay ( look same as in video) and If Waggas vid is right they should screw onto the end of the brush shaft. and in turn should take an aquadaptor ?
Nope. Asda Brush shaft is a fairly heavy thread whereas the angle adaptor is finer thread.

Have I bought the wrong size angle adaptors? or IS the Asda brush thread the wrong one?

Aqua-dapter

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2013, 04:48:45 pm »
Hi Jim,

I think we were chatting on the site?

For anyone else interested... the female thread on the Aqua-dapter is made to suit the normal "German Thread" on most poles.  We have pole adapters for other popular manufacturer's poles.

When converting a Harris pole, you need a 'hose through' end screw with a shaft large enough to be bonded into the end section of the pole.

Hope this helps.

Paul

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2013, 05:52:10 pm »
Paul thanks for your help this afternoon,
I think I have cracked this issue.

It seems that all teh brushes I have bought / looked at in Asda have not had teh right tread. Just been in Homebase and they have brushes with a thread that looks similar to the one on my angle adaptors. Im going into Morrisons tomorrow and will have a look for a Bentley and see if its the right thread..
Ill take teh angle adaptors with me this time..

Thanks to y'all

PS the smart price broom I bought in Asda looks to all intents and purposes like a bentley but it has the heavier thread I described...

evo

Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2013, 06:34:52 pm »
Paul thanks for your help this afternoon,
I think I have cracked this issue.

It seems that all teh brushes I have bought / looked at in Asda have not had teh right tread. Just been in Homebase and they have brushes with a thread that looks similar to the one on my angle adaptors. Im going into Morrisons tomorrow and will have a look for a Bentley and see if its the right thread..
Ill take teh angle adaptors with me this time..

Thanks to y'all

PS the smart price broom I bought in Asda looks to all intents and purposes like a bentley but it has the heavier thread I described...

Hi jim the adapter will fit the Bentley brush head i have done the same myself 

Spruce

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2013, 07:24:33 pm »
Bentley brush heads were cheap and light but they aren't designed for our business TBH.

I found they got better with time, only when the flocking of the side bristles wore down a bit. The last one never came right - the flocked bristles just knotted up - fine for a floor brush but not good for window cleaning.

One of the other issues is the bristles don't splay which means that the tips of the bristles are the only thing touching the glass. This doesn't clean the glass properly. TBH I will never modify a Bentley brush again - the purpose built ones are designed to do the job properly first time. Yes they are more expensive (x10) but they last 18 months or more, so per house clean their cost is very small.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2013, 11:44:22 am »
Spruce. Its only the screw bit off of the shaft Im after, The Head will be used as a handbrush for sweeping out the Van. I will be buying  a brush designed for WFP for the windows..  Some things cant be scrimped on.
Im converting the Harris pole for a few specific reasons.

1) I want to prove that there is a shilling to be had in this area before I invest in top end Kit.
2) If I do upgrade a converted Harris pole would make a useful standby for crisis times.
3) I want the harris pole to be fitted with an Aqua-dapter to save water as I will be using a home build trolley. If I upgrade its easy to fit to a WFP and if I dont I'm sure there is a market on here for a second hand one
3) Im a serial modifier.  ;)

Michael Peterson

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2013, 04:40:11 pm »
why save a load of money converting a harris pole, (there's nothing wrong with this a lot use them to great effect) and then put an expensive aquadapter on it, now i do like the aquadapter but if your after saving a bit of money buy the ez john guest push fit tap and whack it on your pole hose, i used these for ages and so does alex gardner i believe

david thomas

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2013, 09:12:25 pm »
Just buy control valve from p.f a/d are a ighttmare spring break hose  will come out 

Aqua-dapter

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2013, 09:19:29 pm »
Hi David,

If you have a Mk2 there have been 2 models with improvements since then.  Springs last longer now, and are easily replaced 'in the field'.

Hose coming out isn't a problem we hear of.  There are tube strengthening inserts for the orange hose or the red hose is suitable for hot water and doesn't need a tube strengthening insert (although you can put one in for complete peace of mind).

Paul

david thomas

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2013, 09:34:38 pm »
I Liked the idea it did work for a few months but when it went wrong I lost time  having to fix it. This was the mk 2 but how many more  mk 3 mk4 ect and £70 a pop till you get it right as for the red hose that will kink in time hot or cold water passing through which I have found out Sorry mate thats my problems that i've had with the mk 2 plus , you need to have old school business I-e a phone number to contact you on

Aqua-dapter

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2013, 10:16:26 pm »
Hi David,

We've had a phone number for over a year.

I know of customers recently still using the Mk1 successfully, and there are thousands using Mk2s and Mk3s.  If kept clean they're designed to last for a long time.

We have made improvements, and will continue to, we've been producing Aqua-dapters for nearly 3 years now, the MK1 was only available for about 4 months, the Mk2 for over a year before the Mk3 came out over a year ago.

They are currently £49.99 +VAT including 8m hose, delivery and 12 months warranty.

Ours hoses are very durable, the orange hose can be kinked, we don't recommend kinking the red hose repeatedly in the same place: http://blog.aqua-dapter.co.uk/2012/11/aqua-dapter-pole-hose-guide/

Paul

david thomas

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2013, 10:43:58 pm »
Any one when starting a business  should have a phone number back 18 months ago your company hid behind your web site which I believe is wrong. If I had been able to talk to some one at the time instead of e-mails we could have resolve the problems I had at the time, like I say I've got the old school way of thinking on that note I do like the concept of A/D and will give the mk 3 ago

Aqua-dapter

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2013, 10:52:28 pm »
Hi David,

We never 'hid' every, and I mean every, email or message we received was replied to.  There are many successful companies who operate without telephone numbers.

When we introduced the phone number we even had a few people contact us to say that they felt it was unnecessary, partly because they felt they had received good service with communication by email.  So I guess it's all down to personal preference.  Email also has the advantage of being available at all hours, and keeping a record of conversations so things don't get missed.

In the early days of the company it was mainly a case of not having enough people/time to answer the calls.  I've always felt that, worse than not having a number, is companies that have one that's never answered!  We introduced the number when we felt we would be answer it enough of the time to make it worthwhile for us and customers.

Paul

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: Aqua Dapter thread
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2013, 10:34:18 pm »
Update: managed to find a Bentley bristle brush at Tesco ( not the easiest broom handle to find round here). drilled out the rivets on the Harris fitting and removed it before fitting the bentley screw head. I ground down a couple of self tapping 4.5x10mm to about 4mm long and used them to secure the Bentley to the Harris pole..
I drilled a 10mm hole in the end of the BEntley and a 13mm Hole in the end of the Harris pole. Im ready for an Aqua-Dapter... :)