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R.C Property

  • Posts: 1599
Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2012, 10:18:46 pm »
You may have to reconnect the pressure switch, it's very simple to do, and Wilkies sell a simple switch for pennies.

Flow controllers are naff; over priced, over engineered, they're not robust and I dislike 'em.

Your right, the more technology that they have the more problems they have to!

That's why I build them and can supply them for £40!! My 2 have lasted for over 2 years and never had any problems!


hi Richard,have you got a pic? thanks

Yer I have, have up loaded the pictures for you.

Tom White

Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2012, 10:25:07 pm »
Looks good, Richard.  I reckon you could sell a fair few of those.

One thing I don't like about the over-engineered flow controllers I've had is that they require a battery in good nick.  If there's any problem with the battery, they don't work (or at least the two I've had were like that).

And they needed calibrating when the temp changes.  The extra cost in batteries and the fannying about really hacked me off.  Oh, and what really annoyed me was when I once accidentally hooked up the crocodile clips to the wrong polarity **BANG**.  I've been told it's easy to protect from this, but I kinda suspect they do this on purpose to make you buy a new one.

That's why I binned them.

I reckon there's a big market for simple - low cost - flow controllers, like yours.

mlscontractcleaner

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2012, 10:25:45 pm »
I've never used a controller in 5 or 6 years of having wfp.

I simply connect the wires of the pump to the battery with crocodile clips and hey presto.

I have yet to have any problems.

Some folk like to over complcate things I think :-\
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

R.C Property

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2012, 10:29:27 pm »
Looks good, Richard.  I reckon you could sell a fair few of those.

One thing I don't like about the over-engineered flow controllers I've had is that they require a battery in good nick.  If there's any problem with the battery, they don't work (or at least the two I've had were like that).

And they needed calibrating when the temp changes.  The extra cost in batteries and the fannying about really hacked me off.  Oh, and what really annoyed me was when I once accidentally hooked up the crocodile clips to the wrong polarity **BANG**.  I've been told it's easy to protect from this, but I kinda suspect they do this on purpose to make you buy a new one.

That's why I binned them.

I reckon there's a big market for simple - low cost - flow controllers, like yours.

Cheers,
Yer I know what you mean about them, there are always people having problems with them and that's the reason I like these, they are simple and don't draw any power, and keeps working until the battery is dead.

ben M

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2012, 10:30:04 pm »
I've never used a controller in 5 or 6 years of having wfp.

I simply connect the wires of the pump to the battery with crocodile clips and hey presto.

I have yet to have any problems.

Some folk like to over complcate things I think :-\
no fuse at all? only pump and battery?

mlscontractcleaner

  • Posts: 1483
Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2012, 10:35:36 pm »
Yes; it's the way I've always done it and have never, ever had a problem.
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

ben M

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2012, 10:38:11 pm »
Yes; it's the way I've always done it and have never, ever had a problem.
how do you switch off the pump? which crocodile clips do you use please?

R.C Property

  • Posts: 1599
Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2012, 10:40:10 pm »
Yes; it's the way I've always done it and have never, ever had a problem.

Would recommend that you fit a fuse to protect you and the equipment, why do you think everything electrical in a van has a fuse on!

mlscontractcleaner

  • Posts: 1483
Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2012, 10:52:51 pm »
The pump has a pressure switch at the bottom so when the pressure builds up the pump cuts out. The battery is connected all day like this.

I've never had a fuse fitted and have never had a problem; thanks anyway but until I do I'm happy working the way I am.
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

R.C Property

  • Posts: 1599
Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2012, 10:55:46 pm »
The pump has a pressure switch at the bottom so when the pressure builds up the pump cuts out. The battery is connected all day like this.

I've never had a fuse fitted and have never had a problem; thanks anyway but until I do I'm happy working the way I am.

Just thought I would mention it, costs £3 to protect possibly £150-£200 of equipment to replace if anything happens. Let's hope nothing happens for you.

ben M

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2012, 11:11:50 pm »
You may have to reconnect the pressure switch, it's very simple to do, and Wilkies sell a simple switch for pennies.

Flow controllers are naff; over priced, over engineered, they're not robust and I dislike 'em.

Your right, the more technology that they have the more problems they have to!

That's why I build them and can supply them for £40!! My 2 have lasted for over 2 years and never had any problems!


hi Richard,have you got a pic? thanks

Yer I have, have up loaded the pictures for you.
thanks Richard,£40 delivery included? lol

R.C Property

  • Posts: 1599
Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2012, 11:18:33 pm »
You may have to reconnect the pressure switch, it's very simple to do, and Wilkies sell a simple switch for pennies.

Flow controllers are naff; over priced, over engineered, they're not robust and I dislike 'em.

Your right, the more technology that they have the more problems they have to!

That's why I build them and can supply them for £40!! My 2 have lasted for over 2 years and never had any problems!


hi Richard,have you got a pic? thanks

Yer I have, have up loaded the pictures for you.
thanks Richard,£40 delivery included? lol

Well postage is only £7. I'm sure I could do something for you!

ben M

  • Posts: 4720
Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #52 on: December 22, 2012, 11:52:09 pm »
You may have to reconnect the pressure switch, it's very simple to do, and Wilkies sell a simple switch for pennies.

Flow controllers are naff; over priced, over engineered, they're not robust and I dislike 'em.

Your right, the more technology that they have the more problems they have to!

That's why I build them and can supply them for £40!! My 2 have lasted for over 2 years and never had any problems!


hi Richard,have you got a pic? thanks

Yer I have, have up loaded the pictures for you.
thanks Richard,£40 delivery included? lol

Well postage is only £7. I'm sure I could do something for you!
Thanks Richard but i will probably buy a pump box because i need a new pump controller and a new battery! I am so bad to do DIY so i will buy a pump box like Daz  ;)
Even if i wanted something cheaper!

R.C Property

  • Posts: 1599
Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #53 on: December 22, 2012, 11:55:52 pm »
You may have to reconnect the pressure switch, it's very simple to do, and Wilkies sell a simple switch for pennies.

Flow controllers are naff; over priced, over engineered, they're not robust and I dislike 'em.

Your right, the more technology that they have the more problems they have to!

That's why I build them and can supply them for £40!! My 2 have lasted for over 2 years and never had any problems!


hi Richard,have you got a pic? thanks

Yer I have, have up loaded the pictures for you.
thanks Richard,£40 delivery included? lol

Well postage is only £7. I'm sure I could do something for you!
Thanks Richard but i will probably buy a pump box because i need a new pump controller and a new battery! I am so bad to do DIY so i will buy a pump box like Daz  ;)
Even if i wanted something cheaper!

Yer makes more sense to do it that way.

SHINING EXAMPLE

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2012, 05:57:06 pm »
yes the flow is high but you work quicker

Totally agree. Higher flow = more wore done in the day. 

Nick_Thompson

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2012, 07:03:04 pm »
Have a look at these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290736054991?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Ross built his own flow controller using something like this; I've got one on my desk.  Very simple; two wires go to the power, two wires go to the pump.

I plan to try it out between Christmas and New Year; but if it works, it's a flow controller for £6.00.

That's better than the over-engineered rubbish I purchased (two of 'em) and barely got a year out of each; and they messed me about big style too.

I'm still resentful over that!  ;D

Tosh, that looks very intresting man!

I run a couple of pumps without a controller. Have done for years. The reason I am interested is that, for the first time this winter, I have been heating the water in my tanks via a couple of aquarium heaters to about 30c and it has effected the viscosity of the water. The flow of the water has increased as a direct result of the heat to such an extent that I could do with a slight reduction. 
I’ll look forward to your review.

Nick
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Tom White

Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #56 on: December 23, 2012, 07:05:16 pm »
Richard said to use 15 Amp, not 10 Amp, which is the one I purchased and in the link.  But the 15 Amp ones are pennies too.

They're really simple to wire up; I'll probably try the 10 Amp one; I may as well, since I've got it.

shina

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #57 on: December 23, 2012, 09:06:57 pm »
I use a controller and have done for 7 years without any probs. I have the old analogue one which I find is better as I can have a remote control on it

stuart mc

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #58 on: December 23, 2012, 09:13:38 pm »
The pump has a pressure switch at the bottom so when the pressure builds up the pump cuts out. The battery is connected all day like this.

I've never had a fuse fitted and have never had a problem; thanks anyway but until I do I'm happy working the way I am.

same here ;)

DG Cleaning

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #59 on: December 23, 2012, 09:30:27 pm »
I've never used a controller in 5 or 6 years of having wfp.

I simply connect the wires of the pump to the battery with crocodile clips and hey presto.

I have yet to have any problems.

Some folk like to over complcate things I think :-\

Same here