[david@zap-clean]

I'm still 'on-the-fence' regarding buying a rotary.

I'm hoping to pick up a routine commercial contract:
Full clean 4 to 6 times a year with the complete HWE process. 

The low-pro carpet is maintenance cleaned ~100 times a year (after every event) using the HOST system by the owners staff (not me).  HWE is requested to clean out the HOST system residue every ~3 months.

Can I bonnet clean this job successfully, instead of HWE?

HWE takes 8 hrs, which is too expensive for the customer. 
I'm hoping to halve the time with a suitable rotary system, and halve my price.

[james roffey]

A rotary is in my opinion a must, i have a few regular low profile jobs one of which i did HWE had to go back because the coffee spillages wicked back, i returned and cleaned with the rotary, now i always use the rotary on this job.

[*Hector*]

I'm hoping to halve the time with a suitable rotary system, and halve my price.

Why half your price??

[garry22]

Strange one this.

If it's a flat tile, there should not be any sponges left in them after a decent post clean vacuum.

If the tiles are ribbed and are holding on to the sponges, then I cannot see you removing those with a rotary.

A rotary would be my preferred method for the maintenance (rather than HOST or HWE. Bear in mind I have HOST, rotary and HWE systems).

[AshWhite]

I'd have thought that bonneting it would defeat the object of why they want a company to come and do a clean?

[david@zap-clean]

I'm hoping to halve the time with a suitable rotary system, and halve my price.

Why half your price??

Half the time to do it.

[Carpet2Clean]

Hi David

Did a large office space (carpet tiles) 2 weeks ago with HWE

The job was mean`t to be just spotting around water coolers & main walkway (small)

They had a guy go in with a rotary 3 months before and did a c*** job so they wanted someone with HWE.

After i cleaned them small areas the boss then asked me if i could clean the whole office building...Result   


Richard



 

[*Hector*]

I'm hoping to halve the time with a suitable rotary system, and halve my price.

Why half your price??

Half the time to do it.

the customer doesn't know that....

if you must reduce the price just knock a 1/4 of the price off..... The customer is paying for your knowledge, not how long it takes....

[Carpet2Clean]

Very true Hector




Richard

[Jamie Pearson]

What type of location is it?

[Adrian Marsh]

I'm hoping to halve the time with a suitable rotary system, and halve my price.

Why half your price??

Half the time to do it.

the customer doesn't know that....


T
if you must reduce the price just knock a 1/4 of the price off..... The customer is paying for your knowledge, not how long it takes....

This Hector guy (who ever you are ) actually talks sense. David, you accept other advice, why reject this excellent piece of advice?

[creighton foyle]

if the company used a rotary system instead of the host eg dry fusion, cimex, or even an ordinary rotary with the right cleaning solution and bonnet/pad then thay could pay you twice a year and forget about the host machine.

[neil 47]

As u know I use mainly lm but for the last  month I've been doing the full works vac pre spray rotary then extraction this is what I have found

1 I'm happier doing it this way
2 it dosent take me any longer
3 the carpets don't look much better after extraction maybe 10% visual difference
4 every one I did I asked them after the rotary would they be happy with me stopping now and they will be dry in 47 mins  they all said yes
5 I wouldn't be without the rotary should of bought one years ago now we have 2
Neil

[david@zap-clean]

Some great feedback - thanks everyone.

@Cheshireman - I'm not ignoring anyone's advise.  I really want to win this commercial contract and am aware I need to pitch the quote 'right'.  When I cleaned it as a 'one-off' a while ago it took me nearly 8 hours (quality HWE) and they were very pleased - but they didn't see the bill, I was contracted to clean by their Cleaning Co, who couldn't do HWE.

Buying a rotary will speed up the job, so I can quote a lower price and still make a decent profit.  The choice is, should I buy a rotary system (e.g. expensive DryFusion/Thermadry), or buy a simple second hand rotary, just for agitation.

[*Hector*]

David....
your mindset on bonnetting and a rotary are a bit off IMHO.....

Not everyone has a rotary... at this moment you included, so you should be charging as much if not more for the service.

As one who ONLY uses a rotary let me say to you..... You do NOT need to go down the Dry fusion/ Thermadry route to be successful at bonnetting. If you do bonnetting well it leaves just as good a finish as the above mentioned without the heavy outlay...... All bonnetting should be charged at the same price as you would HWE as mentioned not everyone has a rotary, so the service is different to that most people can offer, and as it leaves the carpet almost dry .... It should be charged for......

Then YOU make the most profit available AND have more time to do other work AND are not knackered either....

[garry22]

I'm not sure there is much difference in the time it takes to use each method (I've got four different systems and use them all0.

The beauty of LM (and I'm talking specifically about low profile office carpets) is that it's safe. By that I mean you will (should) not have any nasty surprises the next morning (out of interest, how many of you go back and check?).

I had a 500ms job recently which was done with LM. One area was a bit greasy so I did that with HWE (Powerburst) and what I thought was a thorough rinse. I then bonneted with a DF on full heat and had an airmover running as well. When I left at teatime it felt almost dry. The next morning, it looked terrible, with considerable wick back. The LM areas looked great.