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Mist A Bit

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crime scene cleaning
« on: September 28, 2012, 08:44:38 pm »
Hi all,
Looking at doing a course on crime scene/biohazard cleaning, has anybody done it, do u get plenty of this work, and what sort of pay would i be looking at.
Thanks
Steve

BDCS

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Re: crime scene cleaning
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 11:47:54 pm »
NACSC ? I did it total waste of time and money. Qualification from some spoof welsh lot, promises of work as they'll only have one in each area and you get none and they then want you to pay them every year. Buy £500 in lottery tickets - it'll get a better return. You can ring me about it if you want

The Great One

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Re: crime scene cleaning
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2012, 08:36:09 am »
Hi Eco

i did my course years ago and the crime scene work is minimal in this country. I've done a few needle jobs, 1 undiscovered death, a few gross filth jobs, crap in a carpet and on handles and that's about it.

it has paid for the course and it's interesting but the only people making the money are the tarining companies.

The one Steve went to, hold around 6 courses a year have around 20+ people each time at £750 a head, although there's a C&G in it now there is still not enough work for those that are trained to do it. One guy on my course (National Flood School) did a 6 hour round trip and didn't get the job as they don't want to pay £100+ p/h, I lost a job around the corner as both the landlord and Ins company didn't want to pay me £600 to clean up an attempted suicide and there was blood everywhere as they like to wander (cut wrists)

i went back 2 days later and it had been done by either the landlord or what I call 'The £10 brigade' as someone will do it for that, I inspected while I was there and found blood between the leather sofa and other places.

Martin 8)

Mist A Bit

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Re: crime scene cleaning
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2012, 09:24:25 am »
thanks for the replies, thats what i was worried about their not being enough work in the uk, if i was to invest in the course and then equipment to do the job i`d like to break even pretty quick. Also i cant imagine its easy to advertise and market such a business.

steve

Mist A Bit

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Re: crime scene cleaning
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2012, 09:26:17 am »
NACSC ? I did it total waste of time and money. Qualification from some spoof welsh lot, promises of work as they'll only have one in each area and you get none and they then want you to pay them every year. Buy £500 in lottery tickets - it'll get a better return. You can ring me about it if you want
yes it was the nacsc mate.

BDCS

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Re: crime scene cleaning
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2012, 12:15:25 pm »
Keep hold of the money. £500 for the course, 2 days work lost, drive from Dover to Wales and 2 nights in a hotel. 1 de-comp and a couple of needle picks. They have given me nothing apart from invoices to remain part of "their" organisation which would fall on the mat just before their golf club membership. What investment after the course ? 429, needle gloves,sharps bin and some disposable ppe. Waste carriers ticket. They teach you a procedure thats just common sense. Come here and I'll teach you the same in a day for a reasonable sum as I don't play golf  ;D

Mist A Bit

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Re: crime scene cleaning
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2012, 03:23:57 pm »
can  this sort of work be done legaly without doing the training course, like you say it must be common sense more than anything.
 If so hiow would i go about getting a permit to carry waste or do you have to have bio waste collected.
Just trying to figure out if its worth adding this to my list of services

where u based bdcs

The Great One

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Re: crime scene cleaning
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2012, 06:00:17 pm »
can  this sort of work be done legaly without doing the training course, like you say it must be common sense more than anything.
 If so hiow would i go about getting a permit to carry waste or do you have to have bio waste collected.
Just trying to figure out if its worth adding this to my list of services

where u based bdcs

You can get a C&G in it now but I still don't think it is regulated which is crazy when you think how H&S mad this country is!

i have all the bio waste collected, i have a license to transport but prefer to have collected, Sharps bin is £25+VAT Bio bags around the same, you quote this into the job, needle jobs around £60 p/h + transport, blood £100-200 an hour with bag transport costs, or you can absorb the removal into the job, 6 hour blood job £1200 minus say 8 bags at £25.00 + VAT, PPE, bags, and othe disposable item you have contaminated, so around £800-900 profit.

Martin 8)

The Great One

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Re: crime scene cleaning
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2012, 06:13:22 pm »
Hi

Did one this morning, had to remove the mattress, bed, some clothing, slippers, pictures where there was some splatter.

Bagged all up, sheeted the mattress, disinfected the wooden bed before removal.

Parquet flooring underneath, so applied product to soften, mopped out 3 times and left wet to kill any lingering bacteria.

the issue may now be if it has soaked into the (original) parquet flooring it may have to come up, or to re stain it and seal it with a polyurethane sealant?

Martin 8)

Mist A Bit

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Re: crime scene cleaning
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2012, 08:22:19 pm »
Hi

Did one this morning, had to remove the mattress, bed, some clothing, slippers, pictures where there was some splatter.

Bagged all up, sheeted the mattress, disinfected the wooden bed before removal.

Parquet flooring underneath, so applied product to soften, mopped out 3 times and left wet to kill any lingering bacteria.

the issue may now be if it has soaked into the (original) parquet flooring it may have to come up, or to re stain it and seal it with a polyurethane sealant?

Martin 8)
Hi sounds like you`ve been busy, does all the work come from the nacsc or do you advertise yourself in some other way?

regards
steve

The Great One

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Re: crime scene cleaning
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2012, 09:02:55 pm »
Hi Steve

I didn't do my course with the nacsc, I did mine with the national flood school.

This job came through an ' official channel' the first I've had from them, sent my card to them about 3 years ago!

I usually can't sleep after a blood job, it doesn't bother me, I'm just very alert, like I've had 10 coffees before bed and someone has taped my eyelids open!

Martin 8)

The Great One

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Re: crime scene cleaning
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2012, 03:16:17 pm »
Hi

Here you go Steve, something to get your teeth into!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjyLzaBbQ3A

Martin 8)

Mist A Bit

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Re: crime scene cleaning
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2012, 11:25:28 am »
good video.  8)