[rosskesava]

Hi Dave

I started off on the moral high ground but then I remebered this woman about 3 years ago who didn't just rip us off for about £30 - she then phoned me up and took the mickey.

If it had been a plain 'get it for free' then I can understand that as there are people like that but she gloated in it.

So, I made sure she got tons of junk mail and then after we'd changed our work  number for an 0800 number, I phoned her up from a phone box and said I'd given her name and number etc and she went berserk. I put a £1 in the phone and left the receiver off the hook.

Now though, I could not be bothered. I've had the odd abusive/'won't pay' phone call but I just hang up. If they phone back again, I hang up again. They soon get the message I could not care less about £20 or whatever.

Last year some young girl asked if we'd do her windows and then the evening before when I phoned to confirm that her windows were going to be cleaned the following day, her boyfriend/husband answered and went berserk when I said 'it's the window cleaners' so I hung up. He phoned me back and hurled a pile more abuse and all I said was to him was if he phones back again, I'll phone the police as as my calls are recorded (which they are) and that was the end of it.

Junk mail though, is a non threatening, non violent and non aggressive way to feel like you're 'getting even'. It's better than some of the other suggestions like going around to the persons house to do what? End up in court after beating them up? Be beaten up yourself? Have a slanging match that goes no where? Etc.

Cheers

[rosskesava]

Hi Vision On

I  had  gone  to  the trouble of writing an epic reply.

I've done that too. I spent evenings once doing that.

And then binned it.

Yup, now I just don't bother also.

There will always be people like that.

Cheers

[texas girl]

I have had this unpleasant experience 3 or 4 times in 25 years. My experience was with commercial clients but probably the same amount of money.

My anger and disgust could have lead me to do something I would eventually feel embarrassed about, but I tried a different approach and it worked in all but one case.

Truth. Truth with tackfull delivery. I wrote a note along with a bill and said  "I was under the impression that this agreement was made with honesty and integrity and I counted on honesty on your part. I kept my end of the agreement. "

When the verbal agreement was made I counted on your (her, etc) word being honest.

 I do several of your neigbors and have never  had this problem.  Please mail a check in the amount of ..... to keep your word.

Thanks a lot,

Sincerely,
.................


This may work if the person has any character at all. Try it.

You have nothing to lose.

Hugs;

Texas Girl

[Neil Grainger]

You guys sound like bouncers on nightclub doors rather than business owners.

Violence does noy solve anything.

Put it down to experience and move on.

What was the job worth £20, not worth all the trouble, just move on.

This happens to us CC's all the time and it normally rich people doing for hundreds of pounds. Letter from County court normally works. you can download from thier website and add your costs to it.

[Ian_Giles]

I agree that violence is never the answer, but I never forget, at some point in the future there may come a time when you can visit vengenge upon them

You know the kind of thing, it's a wet, cold miserable winters night, its blowing a gale and the rain is coming down in stair rods.
You drive along a road that is miles from anywhere and come across a person tramping miserably along the road with a petrol can in their hands.

You pull into the verge, his face lights up as he runs towards your car.

You wind down your window, and as he looks in you smile and say, "Remember me?...not your lucky day is it pal?  "

You then pull off smartly before he smashes your face in

Just be careful you don't stall the engine

Ok, you will probably never be lucky enough to get your revenge in quite such an enjoyable fashion, but if someone dumps on me I don't forget, I may never get the chance to even the score (unless I set out to deliberately do so...which I don't do) but should the oportunity ever arise then I make sure I do so.


Tosh and Squeaky will both know who I mean, there is a local window cleaner I don't get on with (few of us do) and a few years back he 'poached' a job off me in an underhand way.
It was only a £2.50 shop front, but I was peeved about it.
There is a set of traffic lights in the town centre, I was talking to someone and I think I was actually stood outside the shop in question.
This 'window cleaner' pulled up at the lights, just as they turned green he flicked a glance towards me and 'smirked' as he pulled away.

I wanted to smack him one, I really did

Since then I have taken a few accounts off him now and then, in fact I've just taken a £6.00 shop front off him that just happens to be next door to the one he took off me all those years ago.
Now I just have to pray he turns up at the lights as I am WFPing them...and then I can smirk at him.

At the moment he probably doesn't know how is going to be taking over the job in his place, it'll absolutely kill him to find out it's me.

I may not get lucky enough to have him in a position where I can 'smirk' at him as I am cleaning them.
But I'll get a warm glow knowing his insides will be twisted up when he knows it is me that is doing the account

Revenge IS sweet when it is done right.

Ian

[Fast 1 *]

I think you should kidnap him,take him to your house,and over the course of 10 years,gradually remove his entire skin,whilst adding salt.Then,on a daily basis kick his genitals repeatedly for 20 minutes wearing steel toe caps for 1 month.Also it might be an idea to make him wear a walkman that continuously plays take that songs.at this stage i suggest sewing his anus up and keep on feeding him  curry for 1 week.Alternatively,dont worry about it .the geezers an idiot,who is not worth getting wound up over.hope this helps!     Gel

[Sarah Sarill]

I wear a walkman that continuously plays take that songs...     Gel

I'll volunteer for that part 

Sarah

[JM123]

Its not illegal to leave a skip outside someones house is it?? You know, one filled with general smelly household waste like rotten vegetables - oh and leave a bill for the windows (and the skip) stuck to the side of it.

[windows_chepstow]

Violence does not solve anything.

It does sometimes though!

Not in the world of window cleaning though; I admit.

I do like this one mind:

Post by Fast One:

I think you should kidnap him,take him to your house,and over the course of 10 years,gradually remove his entire skin,whilst adding salt.Then,on a daily basis kick his genitals repeatedly for 20 minutes wearing steel toe caps for 1 month.Also it might be an idea to make him wear a walkman that continuously plays take that songs.at this stage i suggest sewing his anus up and keep on feeding him  curry for 1 week.

Pure brilliance.

[Fast 1 *]

Very kind,tosh,thankyou

[Morph]

When I was at School we ordered 2 tons of coal to be delivered to the front garden of our music teacher.  He got it!!

[Paul Coleman]

I think you should kidnap him,take him to your house,and over the course of 10 years,gradually remove his entire skin,whilst adding salt.Then,on a daily basis kick his genitals repeatedly for 20 minutes wearing steel toe caps for 1 month.Also it might be an idea to make him wear a walkman that continuously plays take that songs.at this stage i suggest sewing his anus up and keep on feeding him  curry for 1 week.Alternatively,dont worry about it .the geezers an idiot,who is not worth getting wound up over.hope this helps!     Gel

Just give him a season ticket to watch Sunderland.  That'll teach him.

[gaza]

ROSS:A new side line for you,send a hearse to his door especially with w/c written on the side ,think he would get the message

 gaza

[Fast 1 *]

when he goes to work,take a team of irish groundworkers round his house and dig a 15 meter hole outside his front door.When completed,place at the bottom an oversexed psycotic,bodybuilding homosexual,who has a liking for human flesh.Climb out and cunningly disguise the hole with leaves and twigs.When he returns home,stand at his front door,urinating against it.when he runs at you,he will fall into a big,violent gay nightmare.Finally,finish off your urine into the hole.casually walk off whistling.alternatively,get another customer.hope this helps

[Fast 1 *]

a better man walks away........