[mark m]

I rent a garage for my ibc  tank it cost me £15 a week if i did not need a ibc tank i could save £15 a week so i have been making a experiment i have twin 27 di  water is coming tap 240 going into first old di coming out 100ppm and in the second di i have new resin which is coming out at 000pm anyway  i have made 5100lt so far it was on 2ppm this morning and i have just filled up 350lt and it is still 2ppm .I use 350 lt a day so 1700lt  a week so i have made 3 weeks already i can fill my van in 40 min di only at home so i am thinking of just going di only it might cost me £20 a week more what do you think also the experiment is not finished yet i will let you know how much it get i might try 3 di

[mister bit]

Exactly what I was thinking messing about with RO all that wasted water Can I join you in the experiment?

 I was going to go softener then di then di my tap water is 275tds I reckon 400 litres a day might come out at sub £15 a week which I think is great ... fill up at customers houses and only carry the water I need save that in Diesel I reckon! It's economics! It's the future!   

[Llaaww]

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/Resin%20Calculator.htm

[rah]

What do YOU think ?

To many post on here of people asking how to wipe there bum!!!

We have one of the most powerful computers, are brains!!!  Learning to use them gives us the most amazing feelings!!

If you can't make a decision ( not only yourself, but many , many others as well) how are you oing to run a business?

You need to make decisions instantly, how are you going to do it!

Sorry to blow my top with you, but far to often are there post on here asking , what do I do when the toilet rolls gone!

Ban me if you wish

Rob.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/Resin%20Calculator.htm

Doesn't take into account twin vessels or resin brand, so pretty useless IMO.

[mark m]

What do YOU think ?

To many post on here of people asking how to wipe there bum!!!

We have one of the most powerful computers, are brains!!!  Learning to use them gives us the most amazing feelings!!

If you can't make a decision ( not only yourself, but many , many others as well) how are you oing to run a business?

You need to make decisions instantly, how are you going to do it!

Sorry to blow my top with you, but far to often are there post on here asking , what do I do when the toilet rolls gone!

Ban me if you wish

Rob.

If you dont like bugger off  this is a forum it is used for  helping  people   

[Spruce]

I rent a garage for my ibc  tank it cost me £15 a week if i did not need a ibc tank i could save £15 a week so i have been making a experiment i have twin 27 di  water is coming tap 240 going into first old di coming out 100ppm and in the second di i have new resin which is coming out at 000pm anyway  i have made 5100lt so far it was on 2ppm this morning and i have just filled up 350lt and it is still 2ppm .I use 350 lt a day so 1700lt  a week so i have made 3 weeks already i can fill my van in 40 min di only at home so i am thinking of just going di only it might cost me £20 a week more what do you think also the experiment is not finished yet i will let you know how much it get i might try 3 di

Contrary to Winprocleans feelings, I think the resin calculator will give you some basis to work from. Gardiners would have got the calculator from a resin supplier, so I'm sure it would have some credibility.

Anyway, according to this with your usage you would spend about £60.00 per month on resin and would have to change a 7 litre DI vessel every 1.5 weeks. So what you gain on the swings you loose on the merry-go-round. I don't know what I would find more tedious; going to the lockup or changing resin regularily, albeit with larger DI vessels.

If you have off street parking couldn't you process water via r/o in your van overnight? But if you are on a water meter I would probably stick with the lockup and r/o.

Spruce.

[ben M]

What do YOU think ?

To many post on here of people asking how to wipe there bum!!!

We have one of the most powerful computers, are brains!!!  Learning to use them gives us the most amazing feelings!!

If you can't make a decision ( not only yourself, but many , many others as well) how are you oing to run a business?

You need to make decisions instantly, how are you going to do it!

Sorry to blow my top with you, but far to often are there post on here asking , what do I do when the toilet rolls gone!

Ban me if you wish

Rob.

calm down mate, no need to talk like that!

[Spruce]

What do YOU think ?

To many post on here of people asking how to wipe there bum!!!

We have one of the most powerful computers, are brains!!!  Learning to use them gives us the most amazing feelings!!

If you can't make a decision ( not only yourself, but many , many others as well) how are you oing to run a business?

You need to make decisions instantly, how are you going to do it!

Sorry to blow my top with you, but far to often are there post on here asking , what do I do when the toilet rolls gone!

Ban me if you wish

Rob.

Rob,

I think this is a little harsh. I also get exasperated when the same question gets asked time and time again, but sometimes we need to bounce an idea around even if we already are pretty sure of the answer.

There is one thing I did learn about the Germans when I worked in the technical service division of Bosch Power Tool in South Africa for many years - they ask the same question over and over again to different people and listened to each point they made. I sometimes got very frustrated with this process as we knew the answer, but sometimes someone came up with another angle they we had never considered before.

So it could be that someone out there has found something out that no one else thought of and this could be the thread that he writes his findings in.

Spruce

[mark m]

I rent a garage for my ibc  tank it cost me £15 a week if i did not need a ibc tank i could save £15 a week so i have been making a experiment i have twin 27 di  water is coming tap 240 going into first old di coming out 100ppm and in the second di i have new resin which is coming out at 000pm anyway  i have made 5100lt so far it was on 2ppm this morning and i have just filled up 350lt and it is still 2ppm .I use 350 lt a day so 1700lt  a week so i have made 3 weeks already i can fill my van in 40 min di only at home so i am thinking of just going di only it might cost me £20 a week more what do you think also the experiment is not finished yet i will let you know how much it get i might try 3 di

Contrary to Winprocleans feelings, I think the resin calculator will give you some basis to work from. Gardiners would have got the calculator from a resin supplier, so I'm sure it would have some credibility.

Anyway, according to this with your usage you would spend about £60.00 per month on resin and would have to change a 7 litre DI vessel every 1.5 weeks. So what you gain on the swings you loose on the merry-go-round. I don't know what I would find more tedious; going to the lockup or changing resin regularily, albeit with larger DI vessels.

If you have off street parking couldn't you process water via r/o in your van overnight? But if you are on a water meter I would probably stick with the lockup and r/o.

Spruce.


The calculater  is no good for twin di vessel si this is way i made this experiment i am going to try 3 di vessel next month  the great thing about filling up with a di i have found is i can fill much quicker so i have got my work done quicker

[easy clean]

By having 3 di vessels will not achieve nothing more so than 2, the same way by having 30 wouldn't! What it will do is make the whole thing a lot more confusing when filling and emptying exhausted resin!

[pncleaning]

What do YOU think ?

To many post on here of people asking how to wipe there bum!!!

We have one of the most powerful computers, are brains!!!  Learning to use them gives us the most amazing feelings!!

If you can't make a decision ( not only yourself, but many , many others as well) how are you oing to run a business?

You need to make decisions instantly, how are you going to do it!

Sorry to blow my top with you, but far to often are there post on here asking , what do I do when the toilet rolls gone!

Ban me if you wish

Rob.

Dont be like that m8.   I am sure there be loads of guys on here that would help you out too if ever you wanted to know something

[Paul Coleman]

What do YOU think ?

To many post on here of people asking how to wipe there bum!!!

We have one of the most powerful computers, are brains!!!  Learning to use them gives us the most amazing feelings!!

If you can't make a decision ( not only yourself, but many , many others as well) how are you oing to run a business?

You need to make decisions instantly, how are you going to do it!

Sorry to blow my top with you, but far to often are there post on here asking , what do I do when the toilet rolls gone!

Ban me if you wish

Rob.

So if you needed advice on something that is window cleaning related, I assume you would no longer post here?
Although the OP was asking about something that you would find an easy decision, there would be things where maybe you were undecided and needed more facts before deciding.  Sure it is possible to use a search engine but you often end up on manufacturers' websites where an opinion may not be neutral.  Far better to ask those who have learned through experience IMO.
It does have me wondering why you bothered to post.  I'm also wondering why I have bothered.

[mark m]

By having 3 di vessels will not achieve nothing more so than 2, the same way by having 30 wouldn't! What it will do is make the whole thing a lot more confusing when filling and emptying exhausted resin!

it must ?

lets say
1st vessel in at 240
2nd vessel in at 120 out 000pm
if you add one more it must be less work for each vessel i am not saying you are wrong i am just trying to get the best value

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

By having 3 di vessels will not achieve nothing more so than 2, the same way by having 30 wouldn't! What it will do is make the whole thing a lot more confusing when filling and emptying exhausted resin!

it must ?

lets say
1st vessel in at 240
2nd vessel in at 120 out 000pm
if you add one more it must be less work for each vessel i am not saying you are wrong i am just trying to get the best value

So long as the oldest resin is below the tap water TDS then it WILL help.

[easy clean]

You only need 2, when the first one reaches 240 then it exhausted cos that what the tap tds is, the second vessel will then start showing higher than you can use so you then move the second vessel to be first and then replace the what use to be first vessel with new resin and then put it second in line. Its hard to explain and someone may be able to do it better but you only need two.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

You only need 2, when the first one reaches 240 then it exhausted cos that what the tap tds is, the second vessel will then start showing higher than you can use so you then move the second vessel to be first and then replace the what use to be first vessel with new resin and then put it second in line. Its hard to explain and someone may be able to do it better but you only need two.

Trust me, the freshest resin will rise beyond 000ppm well before the second reaches 240ppm!

[Window Washers]

Exactly what I was thinking messing about with RO all that wasted water Can I join you in the experiment?

 I was going to go softener then di then di my tap water is 275tds I reckon 400 litres a day might come out at sub £15 a week which I think is great ... fill up at customers houses and only carry the water I need save that in Diesel I reckon! It's economics! It's the future!    

if you think filling up from a customers tap to run your business is the future, then imo your barking mad.

I totally agree with looking at costs but would it not be a way forward to increase your income by gaining more customers you may save money going resin only then you would be restricting the time you could clean so there really would be no benifit imo.

the time you spend looking into this go out canvassing and gain extra work to pay for the ro unit tds of 275 through resin is not the cheaper option imo.

To the guy that pays for storage at £15, when/if you grow what are you going to do, I think £15 a week for that is very very cheap and going di would just end up taking you more time, and thats one thing you can't buy

[mister bit]

What if you live in a first floor flat in the South East (virtual desert) with high TDS, no off road parking and limited on road parking and compulsory water meters in every house being fitted right now. The upside is dirty windows as far as the eye can see and three storey properties with access problems!

Surely the same economics do not apply across the board?

So as far as I can see I'm entitled to my experiments and I may bring something new to the party? Anyway thanks for the input it has been noted, I hope you have a great weekend.