To be honest though Ian if you dont know anything different then Brodex are good decent poles, when i bought my fisrt set up the fella gave me his old brodex poles and i was happy using these for the start. I then got some money and bought a s-max 40 and used this day in day out till i got more money and bought a 22slx, if you dont know any different then you think your doing ok. Dont forget mate you'd probably not of heard of gardiners if you didnt frequent this site. hey dont do road shows or much advertising so you dont know about them unless its word of mouth by bumping into someone or by coming on one of these sites. I still have my old brodex pole as its a good back up in case