[wynne jones]

See this a lot in topics. Just wondering what the big benefit is in doing this, I think it's bad practice to mix products.

Surely you want something that does the job on it's own. And when you get people saying product 'A' is amazing and then say in the same breathe they just add some product 'B' to it seems a bit daft.

I will use SPM/Pureclean for most jobs. If I don't think they will cut the mustard I will use Powerburst, Ultrapak or whatever is appropriate.
   

[AshWhite]

I don't know about others, but I certainly see a difference when I add citraboost or oxibrite to my prespray.
Citraboost has the added advantage of smelling nice too, which customers always comment on.

[Jim_77]

Wynne... with SPM you are already using a microsplitter with oxidiser added!  So there

I think the point is that a general purpose pre-spray will cover a wide range of soils, but sometimes it needs a bit of added ingredient to help with a more demanding soil condition.

To be honest, the only additive I put in my pre-sprays is oxidiser.  Used to add a citrus type thing but have stopped it now because I find it largely unnecessary.

[james roffey]

I understand exactly what you mean, how many times have you read "why hit it with a sledgehammer"  like powerburst when you can use M Power i would say that you want the carpet as clean as possible, have you ever tried wiping a cloth across a carpet after cleaning with these presprays ? i have and have still got dirt out and that is with a vacuum, prespray, thorough agitation and then extraction using 400 psi and an inline heater 

[Paul Moss]

I just add pure  caustic lime to my prespray and boy does it move the marks out.

[AshWhite]

I just add pure  caustic lime to my prespray and boy does it move the marks out.

A heat 'n' run don't quite get it hot enough though..

[wynne jones]

Wynne... with SPM you are already using a microsplitter with oxidiser added!  So there

Yeah and some bloke in a white coat (or Nick) has tested it and it means when you use it there's no suprises. Just wondering on an imsurance claim how you would stand when you say you mixed two products together.

My other point is you don't get many people saying I used Powerburst and I added another product to get it to work, they used another product.

As for boosting ph with chems well thats alchemy for the soap makers.  

[Paul Moss]

I just add pure  caustic lime to my prespray and boy does it move the marks out.

A heat 'n' run don't quite get it hot enough though..

I run mine through a bunsen burner to get it to the right temp. Be carful on wool though  
you may need an acidic rince

[AshWhite]

I should think that if 2 products were compatible, insurance shouldn't be a problem? It's not like you were using them for something they weren't designed for.

[wynne jones]

I should think that if 2 products were compatible, insurance shouldn't be a problem? It's not like you were using them for something they weren't designed for.

Which products are we talking about that are for use with each other?

[robert meldrum]

Well the first one starts with an H has a 2 in the middle and finishes with an O.

[AshWhite]

As an example, citraboost & ultrapac

[AshWhite]

For prochem chems, there is a compatibility list which I am going to call them to try and get on monday.

[wynne jones]

As an example, citraboost & ultrapac

I didn't know that.

[AshWhite]

Wynne, take a look:

http://www.prochem.co.uk/problem_solvers_%26_additives.htm

"Highly effective on polypropylene (olefin) carpets as a pre-spray and in conjunction with B151 Oxibrite. Cationic solvent free formula "pulls out" soils by neutralising electrical charge and deodorises on application. Red liquid with floral fragrance."

[AshWhite]

Apologies, just realised my mistake in my previous post, shuld have read oxibrite and ultrapac.

Edit: if you read the safety data sheet of citraboost on the prochem website, the directions are:
"Carpet and fabric pre-spray additive: Add 10 to 15ml Citra-Boost per litre of ready-to-use pre-spray solution."

Edit No.2: Just found an up to date compatibility chart, page 11 on this pdf:
http://www.prochem.co.uk/pdf%20graphics/Cleaning%20Specialist%20Issue_18.pdf

[Jamie Pearson]

As an example, citraboost & ultrapac

I didn't know that.

You can also add oxibrite to that if necessary.

Chemspec Energizer can be used to boost any detergent, rinse, tlc (that doesn't contain sodium met.) it won't raise the pH either unlike Oxibrite that is about 9.5 from memory.