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Tom White

Awkward internal clean...
« on: August 30, 2011, 06:43:16 pm »
I may be in line to do a job with a large amount of internal glass; including about 20 Velux windows that are about 20 to 25 feet high.  Doing the outside is no problem, but the inside will be.  It's part of a refurbishment, so I maybe to have access to these windows using a tower that will be there, but there's no guarantee.  I've said that if I haven't got access to a tower, the quote is an extra £100 on top.

Now, I seem to remember reading about 'microfibre on a pad' which you can stick on the end of a pole; ideal for awkward inside jobs.

Can anyone help me with the name of the item, or even better, a link?

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Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 06:55:48 pm »

IS THIS WHAT YOUR THINKING OF?

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Indoor_Cleaning.html

TBH though tosh they are not great on 1st cleans/ heavy soiling  only maintenance even then they can leave dust. you might be better off using a wagtail
WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.

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Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 06:58:43 pm »
after a refurb, I would use a ladder or ali tower, these kits are not up to it, or get practising with a pole and squeegie, straight pulls on velux or water goes every where

dazmond

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Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 09:59:44 pm »
traditional extension pole with a vice versa(squeegee/mop combined) is what ive used in the past with a fixiclamp with a cloth in for detailing afterwards.works ok.i use a unger 6 m pole which can go up to 10m with the exta sections if needed!! ;) ;D ;D ;D


regards



dazmond
price higher/work harder!

Tom White

Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2011, 10:41:52 pm »

IS THIS WHAT YOUR THINKING OF?

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Indoor_Cleaning.html

TBH though tosh they are not great on 1st cleans/ heavy soiling  only maintenance even then they can leave dust. you might be better off using a wagtail

That's the bobby; and cheers for the advice; I'll give it a miss.

Tom White

Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 10:45:48 pm »
after a refurb, I would use a ladder or ali tower, these kits are not up to it, or get practising with a pole and squeegie, straight pulls on velux or water goes every where

Cheers; I've got a set of heavy duty triples that will get me that high; but to be honest; there's about 20 of these windows and I don't fancy moving it 20 times; and I'm not sure what obstacles will be in my way.

The exterior, I can access with ladders; there's a walkway down either side of the velux windows; but these are electrically opened and closed; and only open a few inches - so I can't clean the inside from the outside.

It looks like it's a tower or a wagtail on a pole; but it's 25 feet up (at least); and I can't see my polling skills being that good - but given the height from the ground level; I doubt it will need to be.

Thanks guys; it's been a useful post for me.

bobby p

Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2011, 08:30:12 am »
another way is a damp scrim draped over a swivel Tbar scrubber,with a dry mop .  if the tbar is 10 inch size it doesnt get too heavy  on a long pole

Paul Coleman

Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 08:47:54 am »
It's a bit expensive to set up but what would work (proving there's no hard builder's stuff on there) is to use the Easyshine/Dragonfly pads.  I know it would look rough on the first clean but if you got through a lot of pads on the first pass, you could wash them all and then do the veluxes again as part of the first clean.  The second pass would bring them up reasonably OK - and better on subsequent cleans.  If this is a regular job the investment would eventually be worthwhile.  I do a few internal cleans like this now and it saves me a lot of time once the first clean is over.
On your job, the first clean would be time consuming doing it the way I suggest but there would be benefits from the second/third clean onwards. Also, you would be doing it without working at height.

Mike #1

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Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2011, 07:31:24 am »
you could use your wfp disconnected  spray brush head with water and mild cleaning solution , scrub glass clean ,  then wrap a cloth around brush head and dry it off ,   sounds a carry on i know , personally mate it would be a dam site eaiser using ladder , most likely far far quicker then messing about with wfp or similar

Smudger

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Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2011, 07:55:08 am »
Morning Tosh - the vikan easyshine would struggle to leave a good finish on a 1st clean but well worth having for regular cleans

i would reccomend the following -  buy 1 adaptor to screw onto the of your pole that takes trad tool - mop and scrub the velux well then wrap microfibre cloth over mop and rub dry then i would just go over with the easyshine system again you can get an adaptor for the end of your pole.

yes - it's a little long winded but the results are excellent and no climbing ladders or towers.

Darran
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dazmond

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Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2011, 08:16:29 am »
for Gods sakes lads its an easy obstacle to overcome!!

like ive said before a vice versa or ettore backflip on a pole!

scrub said window,turn it around and feather the top edge with the squeegee side and pull down.tidy up with a scrim/microfibre in a fixiclamp.if you need to scrape it pop a scraper on the pole.job done.

ive had years of experience with traditional pole work before i went wfp and still use it on very cold days.should be fairly straightforward for velux.even if its awkward itll be better and safer than using a tower/ladders!


regards


dazmond
price higher/work harder!

Llaaww

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Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2011, 08:38:55 am »
Tosh just use your ladder, it is the only way. If it is a re furb the glass will be v dirty, so the biggest worry would be drips on fresh emulsion. Just make sure you have plenty of scrim.

I did one last year which had 40 high velux. Just hard graft for a day thats all.
if it is dirty it is fair game

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Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2011, 06:31:33 pm »
for Gods sakes lads its an easy obstacle to overcome!!

like ive said before a vice versa or ettore backflip on a pole!

scrub said window,turn it around and feather the top edge with the squeegee side and pull down.tidy up with a scrim/microfibre in a fixiclamp.if you need to scrape it pop a scraper on the pole.job done.

ive had years of experience with traditional pole work before i went wfp and still use it on very cold days.should be fairly straightforward for velux.even if its awkward itll be better and safer than using a tower/ladders!



I agree Dazmond

regards


dazmond
WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.

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Re: Awkward internal clean...
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2011, 08:34:48 pm »
A zero degree squeegee may also be an option.