[soapscentz]

 

Hi team,
was just wondering if anybody could help me with getting help with company health and safety policy,risk assessment,method statement for builders cleans i need to produce them but not sure where to go, wasnt sure if there was a template to follow, have tried to call health and safety advisory but no reply, any help would be very much appreciated  : Regards Sharon

[stevemc]

Try Mecsafe tel 01302 772368
www.mecsafe.co.uk

they did our new build/re-clean and final clean
risk and methord statments and they will help you fill out coshh
sheets.
they will come to your office or you can go to them we have had go there for training on pasma and ipaf h&s etc.
They cover pat testing and supply ppe items as well.
they are a small company and do not charge a monthly fee if you want to put them down on tenders etc as your company H&S advisors.
well that is as long as they have done your risk/coshh etc.

steve

[soapscentz]

Hi Steve,

your a star, thanks for the info its a big help, i'll give them a call, its such a minefield when your just starting out, Have a good weekend
Regards
Sharon

[stevemc]

Ask for david dawes i think he is on holiday this weekbut he will call you next week.

steve

[soapscentz]

Hi steve
just come off the phone been talking to david dawes, he was really helpfull, cant believe how easy it was to sort out, he asked where i heard about them so told him you recommended them, thank you so very much its really appreciated, in the space of 3 hours i've learnt so much especially by using this forum . thanks again
Sharon

[CMS]

I am absolutely flabergasted to read this post.

As an industry we should be taking Health and Safety seriously so that our Clients view us as the professionals that we are.

How then can anyone but you write your Health and Safety Policy?

How can anyone do your risk assessments without being on the job to assess the risks?

How can anyone write your method statements? What method are you using?

Are there any 'professionals' out there that agree with me?

I am speechless 

[soapscentz]

think you have the wrong end of the proverbial stick of course h&s is important to us thats why i was asking for guidance, i dont confess to know everthing i thought thats what the forum was for, i will provide the information for them to help me.

[martin19842]

hi there

cms,

there are some very good health and safety advisers out there in the market place at the present time.

we have access to one, however we havent used him as yet,

but these guys will come out on site and carry out all of the relevant surveys to compile the risk assessments, coshh assessments and method satements.

whilst they are expensive to use, they provide an objective eye to the situation, and will fully cover all the areas required.

once you have this information, it is then your responsibility to impart this information to your workforce.

You will find that when completing tenders for the big boys, ie construction companies, they often employ an external health and safety audit company, to asses that all companies are compliant.

health and safety is an industry to itself, and will continue to be .

regards

martin

[CMS]

I know that Martin.

Having the work done (at great expense) and ON THE JOB is very different to having the information provided on a forum like this (which is what the original poster was requesting).

i need to produce them but not sure where to go

As much as I'd like to be able to offer help/advice there's nowhere to go. Only YOU can do this for YOUR jobs.

I think that this would be a good warning (for want of a better word) for anyone wanting to get into the industry.

There is far more to it than just buying a mop and bucket and calling yourself a cleaning contractor.

Sorry to sound harsh but that's the way it is.

[martin19842]

hi there,

oh believe me i totally agree, we have spent a lot of money, time and effort developing our business, our clients, and the services that we offer.

we offer a unique approach in that, for our specialist works, we will resource accordingly to deliver the service to the client.

yes there are a lot of people that feel they can offer a service but are not in a position to do that.  but that isnt limited to the cleaning industry, it happens in all industries.

regards

martin

[stevemc]

As Martin said
You will find that when completing tenders for the big boys, i.e. construction companies, they often employ an external health and safety audit company, to asses that all companies are compliant

if you are to get on to national builders /construction company's preferred user lists
you need to have a company that you can but on the paperwork to show you are H&S compliant.

Many company's have no idea how to fill in coshh and risk sheets so any company
that can give them some help has to be a good idea.
they will teach you how to fill them out but if you need someone to go on site and do
some risk/method for you then they will do that and once you have it you will be able to use it on lots of jobs from then on.

steve

[Tim Downer]

Afternoon everyone.
This is a very interesting topic, one that has got me thinking anyway.

Yes, i feel that there is a degree of help that these "outside" companies can give you, with regards on how to fill out the relevant risk assessment forms, and can guide you through the minefield that is out there with the health and safety, and in some instances it is probably worth spending lots of money with these guys.

However, i tend to agree with CMS in that YOU are responsible in making sure all the relevant Health and Safety information and risk assessments etc are accurate.

A developer that i work along with has certain requirments in these departments which are not as detailed as another developer, who requires much more information from me.

As CMS and i are saying, YOU have to do the research, go to these people and spend money with them if you like.....but if things go wrong...YOU are the person responsible.

Regardless of who has done mine originally.....as i am responsible, i like to go through and check and make ammendments to all our policies on a monthly basis. They are constantly updated.....plus i get an excuss to stay in the office for a morning!

There is plenty of information out there on the internet and in books down the libruary.....i personally would not like to leave this in the hands of outsiders, although when stuck i would call them for advice.....and ask for direction on this forum too!!

Kind Regards

Tim

[Tim Downer]

I forgot to add, that when a deveoper first asks you to tender for them, they will send you a health and safety questionaire etc which can help you in getting a health and safety guide going. Mind you, you will still have to back these questions up with the proper health and safety information etc etc.....but still, these give you an idea of what they are looking for.

Regards

Tim

[CMS]

I suppose I put it a bit harshly but it is a lesson that all you newbies need to learn fast......................

There are many many places that you can go for help but with regards to Health and Safety, the buck stops with you, and it can be oh! so! expensive if you get it wrong!